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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hello List,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://labs.ripe.net/Members/ciaran_byrne/seizure-of-the-right-to-registration-of-ipv4-addresses">https://labs.ripe.net/Members/ciaran_byrne/seizure-of-the-right-to-registration-of-ipv4-addresses</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>RIPE has enforced a court order regarding an IPv4 transfer where a buyer who had paid for the addresses and complied with RIPE policies sought court protection of his right to register those addresses.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Note that this is not an ownership right but still a right that can be court-enforced, in Europe at least.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It has always been my understanding that ARIN would enforce a court order that it deemed legally sound.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I like the idea that a buyer’s rights can be protected in a court action and that ARIN would abide by any court order demanding registration.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My question is whether ARIN would accept a valid court order from any country in the ARIN region, in the manner in which the German court’s order was enforced in the Netherlands, where RIPE is registered.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(Assuming the hypothetical is a buyer with a valid contract specifying a transfer according to ARIN policy, and that the buyer received a valid court order from their jurisdiction requiring registration.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>And what if the seller did not get paid after a transfer, and a court order was issued to return the registration rights to the seller, would ARIN be able to effect that return to the seller given policy requiring a demonstration of need, and despite the seller having participated in transfers within the prior year?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Can we simply assume that the legal structures within which ARIN operates supersede any ARIN policy restrictions?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Not sure if this is better on arin-discuss list, so I will post there as well.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In IPv4 transfers, escrow is normally used, but if simple court-protections are a viable recourse to settle disputes, it may be that escrow services are less a requirement for a safe transfer.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<br>Mike Burns<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>IPTrading.com<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>