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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-45e84ed6-7fff-c030-197e-2e710a073797"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Hi all, </span><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Alyssa and I (co-shepherds for this policy) have reviewed all of the comments. There are 18 comments in favour of the spirit of this policy, and 5 against. </span></font></p><font size="2"><br></font><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Many of these comments express support for removing the restriction on total holdings for a grandfathered organization, because this was not a restriction when they were originally placed on the list. </span></font></p><font size="2"><br></font><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">As such, the amended proposal would look like this: </span></font></p><font size="2"><br></font><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">ARIN will restore organizations that were removed from the waitlist at the adoption of ARIN-2019-16 to their previous position (STRIKE THIS: </span><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:line-through;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">if their total holdings of IPv4 address space amounts to a /18 or less</span><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">.) The maximum size aggregate that a reinstated organization may qualify for is a /22.</span></font></p><font size="2"><br><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">All restored organizations extend their 2 year approval by [number of months between July 2019 and implementation of new policy]. Any requests met through a transfer will be considered fulfilled and removed from the waiting list.</span><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Thoughts?</span></font></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><font size="2">-Anita Nikolich</font><br></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"></span></font>
</div><font size="2"><br></font><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><font size="2">On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 4:09 PM Isaiah Olson <<a href="mailto:isaiah@olson-network.com">isaiah@olson-network.com</a>> wrote:<br></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-2622431769821115873WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2">Hi all,</font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"> </font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2">On behalf of my organization, I would also like to voice support for this policy. As much as I find some arguments against the policy compelling, namely that nobody is guaranteed to receive any space within any kind of time frame when using the waiting list, I think it’s pretty clear to the community that an error was made in moving the target out from underneath companies who had already been patiently waiting on the list in accordance with the requirements at the time they were added. </font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"> </font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2">As far as implementation details, I absolutely believe that two of the most important measures to prevent fraud were the introduction of the /22 limit and the 60 month waiting period to transfer wait list issued space. Although we may have erred in retroactively removing orgs based on the new /20 limit for total space held, I think that the grandfathered orgs should be subject to the same treatment as the orgs who remained on the list after 2019-16 was implemented. Otherwise, I believe we would once again be creating a situation of unequal treatment for the orgs who had to reduce their request size to a /22 after the implementation of 2019-16, and were subject to the new 60 month waiting period upon issuance.</font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"> </font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2">With regards to the proposed /18 limit, I do find that there is little to support this arbitrary boundary when the original waitlist policy specified no such condition. Since we are remedying a one time error, I think that we shouldn’t be too particular about which of the aggrieved parties are allowed to make use of that remedy. Although I personally believe that most organizations holding greater than a /18 could probably afford to obtain space in other ways, I think the duty of ARIN to be fair and impartial requires us to take a bit broader view. Asking an organization to take a smaller allocation, or wait longer to transfer allocated space, seems to me to be a much less onerous retroactive application of new policy than drawing any boundary which results in complete ineligibility for some.</font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"> </font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2">Isaiah Olson</font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2">Olson Tech, LLC </font></p></div></div><font size="2">______________________________</font><font size="2">_________________<br>
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