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<p>I do not support the reintroduction of organizations onto the
wait-list who were removed due to having existing address holdings
larger than a /20. Being on the wait-list was never a guarantee
that you would receive space. The AC had to balance the various
elements of block size and organizations who would be eligible to
receive space under the updated policy and we were aware that the
rules as implemented would prevent some organizations on the
wait-list from receiving blocks going forward. <br>
</p>
<p>Speaking only for myself, not the AC</p>
<p>Andrew<br>
</p>
<div>On 6/19/2020 11:25 AM, Alyssa Moore
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hi folks, <br>
<br>
There was some great discussion of this policy proposal at
ARIN45. We hear a wide range of views including:<br>
<ol>
<li>Don't grandfather organizations. The new waitlist policy
is sound. </li>
<li>Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16
should be eligible for their original request size (even if
it exceeds the new limit of a /22). </li>
<li>Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16
should remain eligible if their holdings exceed a /20 OR a
/18. The draft policy under discussion specifies a /18 total
holdings for grandfathered orgs, while the current waitlist
policy (2019-16) specifies a /20.</li>
<li>Organizations that were on the waitlist before 2019-16
should be eligible regardless of their total holdings
because that was not a restriction of the policy under which
they originally qualified for the waitlist. <br>
</li>
</ol>
<div> There was general support to continue finessing this
draft. If you have views on the above noted parameters, please
make them known here.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>For reference: <br>
<br>
<b>Old waitlist policy</b></div>
<div>
<ol>
<li>Requester specifies smallest block they'd be willing to
accept, equal to or larger than the applicable minimum
size specified elsewhere in ARIN policy.<br>
</li>
<li>Did not place a limit on the total existing IP address
holdings of a party eligible for the waitlist.<br>
</li>
<li>Made resources issued from the waitlist ineligible for
transfer until after a period of 12 months. </li>
</ol>
<b>New Waitlist Policy</b><br>
<ol>
<li>Limits the size of block ARIN can issue on the waitlist
to a /22.<br>
</li>
<li>Places a limit on the total existing IP address holdings
of a party eligible for the waitlist at a /20 or less.<br>
</li>
<li>Makes resources issued from the waitlist ineligible for
transfer until after a period of 60 months. <br>
</li>
</ol>
<div><br>
Best, <br>
Alyssa</div>
</div>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 3:35
PM David Farmer <<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu" target="_blank">farmer@umn.edu</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div dir="ltr">I support this policy and believe the policy
development process is the proper place to handle this
issue. However, this policy seems to be implementable as a
one-time policy directive to ARIN Staff. Once implemented,
by putting the effected organizations back on the waiting
list, it seems unnecessary to memorialized the text in the
NRPM, it would immediately become extraneous and
potentially confusing to future readers of the NRPM.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Therefore, I would like to recommend the Policy
Statement not be added to the NRPM upon its
implementation. I believe this to be consistent with the
intent of the policy. Otherwise, does ARIN Staff have
procedural advice on how best to handle what seems like
a one-time directive?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at
12:21 PM ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank">info@arin.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<br>
Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2: Grandfathering of
Organizations Removed from <br>
Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16<br>
<br>
Problem Statement:<br>
<br>
The implementation of the ARIN-2019-16 Advisory Council
Recommendation <br>
Regarding NRPM 4.1.8: Unmet Requests caused some
organizations to be <br>
removed from the waiting list that were approved under
the old policy’s <br>
eligibility criteria. These organizations should have
been grandfathered <br>
when the waitlist was reopened to allow them to receive
an allocation of <br>
IPv4 up to the new policy’s maximum size constraint of a
/22.<br>
<br>
Policy Statement: Update NRPM Section 4.1.8 as follows:<br>
<br>
Add section 4.1.8.3 (temporary language in the NRPM to
remain until the <br>
policy objective is achieved)<br>
<br>
Restoring organizations to the waitlist<br>
<br>
ARIN will restore organizations that were removed from
the waitlist at <br>
the adoption of ARIN-2019-16 to their previous position
if their total <br>
holdings of IPv4 address space amounts to a /18 or less.
The maximum <br>
size aggregate that a reinstated organization may
qualify for is a /22.<br>
<br>
All restored organizations extend their 2 year approval
by [number of <br>
months between July 2019 and implementation of new
policy]. Any requests <br>
met through a transfer will be considered fulfilled and
removed from the <br>
waiting list.<br>
<br>
Comments:<br>
<br>
Timetable for implementation: Immediate<br>
<br>
Anything Else: While attending ARIN 44 and discussing
this with other <br>
community members the vast majority indicated that they
agreed that some <br>
organizations were treated unfairly. This proposal is a
remedy.<br>
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