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<div>Having read the Problem Statement and understood what is being proposed, I'd kindly advise that t<span style="font-size:12pt">his policy should also consider allocating the returned addresses not only to the ARIN 4.10 reserved pool - but also the ARIN
4.4 micro-allocation pool for critical infrastructure providers of the Internet , specifically public exchange points. Both would help on the improvement of the end-user experience given the actual depletion of IPv4</span></div>
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<div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net> on behalf of Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 29, 2019 10:39:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> arin-ppml@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-17: Returned Addresses to the 4.10 Reserved Pool</font>
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<div class="PlainText">I find it interesting the idea of privileging the pool dedicated to
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facilitate IPv6 Deployment and I also agree with the comments below in <br>
the sense that it's not very beneficial do most ARIN members due to max <br>
size, /22, cannot be holding more than a /20.<br>
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However one point I couldn't identify is where the new entrants stand in <br>
this new possible scenario ? Will they only be able to apply under the <br>
4.10 reserved pool ? If so for a access/broadband ISPs may be easier to <br>
fit, but not necessarily for other scenarios and types of ISPs. <br>
Therefore if I didn't miss anything these returned addresses should also <br>
be able to go to new entrants, not only to 4.10 reserved pool conditions.<br>
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Best regards<br>
Fernando Frediani<br>
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On 25/07/2019 17:32, Tom Fantacone wrote:<br>
> I found the wording of the Problem Statement on this one a bit <br>
> confusing. However, after deciphering the effect of the actual policy <br>
> change I support it.<br>
><br>
> Essentially, all returned IPv4 space will no longer go to the waiting <br>
> list but will supplement the 4.10 reserved pool used to enhance IPv6 <br>
> deployment. This essentially kills off the waiting list.<br>
><br>
> The recent restrictions placed on the waiting list to reduce fraud <br>
> have hobbled it to the point where it's not very beneficial to most <br>
> ARIN members. (Max size, /22, cannot be holding more than a /20). <br>
> It's essentially only useful to new entrants, but those that go on it <br>
> still have to wait many months to receive their small allocation. If <br>
> they justify need now, but have to wait that long, how critical is <br>
> their need if they're willing to wait that long? Small blocks are not <br>
> terribly expensive and can be quickly gotten on the transfer market. <br>
> I can understand waiting that long for a large block needed for a <br>
> longer term project due to prohibitive cost, but I don't see a great <br>
> benefit to the waiting list as it stands.<br>
><br>
> Also, if there's any fraud left on the waiting list, this would kill it.<br>
><br>
> I would hope, however, that if implemented, those currently on the <br>
> waiting list would be grandfathered in. I do think some entities with <br>
> legitimate need got burned on the last change made to the waiting list.<br>
><br>
> At 04:05 PM 7/23/2019, ARIN wrote:<br>
>> On 18 July 2019, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted <br>
>> "ARIN-prop-276: Returned Addresses to the 4.10 Reserved Pool" as a <br>
>> Draft Policy.<br>
>><br>
>> Draft Policy ARIN-2019-17 is below and can be found at:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_17/">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_17/</a><br>
>><br>
>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will <br>
>> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this <br>
>> draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource <br>
>> policy as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). <br>
>> Specifically, these principles are:<br>
>><br>
>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration<br>
>> * Technically Sound<br>
>> * Supported by the Community<br>
>><br>
>> The PDP can be found at:<br>
>> <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/</a><br>
>><br>
>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:<br>
>> <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/</a><br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Sean Hopkins<br>
>> Policy Analyst<br>
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)<br>
>><br>
>> Draft Policy ARIN-2019-17: Returned Addresses to the 4.10 Reserved Pool<br>
>><br>
>> Problem Statement:<br>
>><br>
>> An inconsistent and unpredictable stream of address space is an <br>
>> unsuitable method of populating the waiting list (4.1.8.1) and <br>
>> fulfilling subsequent requests.<br>
>><br>
>> Policy statement:<br>
>><br>
>> Change "4.10. Dedicated IPv4 Block to Facilitate IPv6 Deployment" to <br>
>> "4.10 Dedicated IPv4 Pool to Facilitate IPv6 Deployment"<br>
>><br>
>> Change" When ARIN receives its last /8 IPv4 allocation from IANA, a <br>
>> contiguous /10 IPv4 block will be set aside and dedicated to <br>
>> facilitate IPv6 deployment. Allocations and assignments from this <br>
>> block " to "In addition to the contiguous /10 IPv4 block set aside <br>
>> and dedicated to facilitate IPv6 deployment, all returns and <br>
>> revocations of IPv4 blocks will be added to the pool of space <br>
>> dedicated to the facilitation of IPv6 deployment. Allocations and <br>
>> assignments from this pool "<br>
>><br>
>> Change "This block will be subject to a minimum size allocation of <br>
>> /28 and a maximum size allocation of /24. ARIN should use sparse <br>
>> allocation when possible within that /10 block." to "This pool will <br>
>> be subject to a minimum size allocation of /28 and a maximum sized <br>
>> allocation of /24. ARIN should use sparse allocation when possible <br>
>> within the pool."<br>
>><br>
>> Comments:<br>
>><br>
>> Timetable for implementation: Immediate<br>
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