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On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Tom Pruitt <<a href="mailto:tpruitt@stratusnet.com">tpruitt@stratusnet.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No -- I can not support the new policy if applied to the current waiting list.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- I don’t support applying the new restriction <span style="font-size:10.0pt">
(</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">only Orgs holding a /20 or less can get on the waiting list) to Orgs that were on the list prior to the suspension.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">--I also would rather see those same Orgs get their requested allocation as long as they were approved for it initially. (yes I think a /15 is excessive, but if they were approved
for it before the rules changed….). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">--At the very least Orgs that were on the list prior to the suspension should get either their requested allocation, or if their request was larger than the new Max allocation
they should get the Max allocation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I could support the suggested changes if they did not get applied to the Orgs on the waiting list prior to the suspension. Once the suspension took affect Orgs knew changes
were coming, and it is reasonable to change the policy, prior to that, they in good faith applied and were approved properly using the set policy. Prudent or not, some Orgs counted on the list for the future, many of these Orgs don’t the deep pockets necessary
to go to the secondary market. I don’t think we should “punish” those orgs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<span style="color:#002060">,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Tom Pruitt <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Network Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> ARIN-PPML <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Curran<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 6, 2019 12:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ARIN-PPML List <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests<br>
<b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Folks - <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We’ve had excellent discussion of various options for the revised “Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests" proposed policy change – some of which is likely to have to further informed folks initial views on
the matter (as well as on future policy proposals in this area), but at this time it is fairly important that we receive focused feedback on the revised policy text as written, with due consideration to the discussion that has occurred online. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To that end, at this time it would be good to know from everyone: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. Are you in favor of ARIN making the policy change specified in the revised "Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests” ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(“Yes” obviously indicative that you’d like ARIN to proceed with its adoption and resumption of wait list issuance under its revised guidelines, and <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> “No” being indicative that you’d rather have the suspension of wait list issuance continue unless/until some other policy change in this area reaches consensus.) <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. If you are not supportive of ARIN making the change specified in the revised "Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests”,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">is there any modification to the proposed policy change that would enable you to support it?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would ask that PPML participants take a moment to consider the proposed policy change as written and please reply regarding the questions above. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">/John<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John Curran<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net">info@arin.net</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Subject: [arin-ppml] Revised - Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Date: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">24 May 2019 at 1:04:58 PM EDT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">To: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">At their 16 May meeting, the Advisory Council revised their recommendation regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests.<br>
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The revised recommendation is hereby submitted to the Public Policy Mailing List for a second community discussion period of 14 days, to conclude on 7 June.<br>
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Once completed, the Board of Trustees will review the AC’s recommendation and the PPML discussion.<br>
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The full text of the Advisory Council's revised recommendation is below.<br>
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Sean Hopkins<br>
Policy Analyst<br>
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)<br>
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Advisory Council recommendation:<br>
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This is an updated version which incorporates feedback from the ARIN staff and was approved for further community consultation at the ARIN AC meeting on May 16, 2019.<br>
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In accordance with section 10.2 of the ARIN Policy Development Process, the ARIN Advisory Council recommends the following actions to the Board of Trustees in response to the Board’s suspension of part of the operation of sections 4.1.8, 4.1.8.1 and 4.1.8.2
of the Numbering Resource Policy Manual:<br>
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Replace section 4.1.8 et. seq. as follows, then reinstate the full operation of sections 4.1.8, 4.1.8.1 and 4.1.8.2 immediately.<br>
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4.1.8 ARIN Waitlist<br>
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ARIN will only issue future IPv4 assignments/allocations (excluding 4.4 and 4.10 space) from the ARIN Waitlist. The maximum size aggregate that an organization may qualify for at any one time is a /22. Organizations will be able to elect a smaller block size
than they qualify for down to a /24. Only organizations holding a /20 or less of IPv4 address space may apply and be approved. Address space distributed from the waitlist will not be eligible for transfer for a period of 60 months. This policy will be applied
to all future distributions from the waitlist to include those currently listed.<br>
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Repeated requests, in a manner that would circumvent 4.1.6, are not allowed: an organization currently on the waitlist must wait 90 days after receiving a distribution from the waitlist before applying for additional space. ARIN, at its sole discretion, may
waive this requirement if the requester can document a change in circumstances since their last request that could not have been reasonably foreseen at the time of the original request, and which now justifies additional space. Qualified requesters whose request
will also be advised of the availability of the transfer mechanism in section 8.3 as an alternative mechanism to obtain IPv4 addresses.<br>
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4.1.8.1 Sequencing<br>
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The position of each qualified request on the waiting list will be determined by the date it was approved. Each organization may have one approved request on the waiting list at a time.<br>
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4.1.8.2 Fulfillment<br>
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ARIN will fulfill requests on a first-approved basis, subject to the size of each available address block as address blocks become available for distribution. A timely review of the original request may be conducted by ARIN staff. Requests will not be partially
filled. Any requests met through a transfer will be considered fulfilled and removed from the waiting list.<br>
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