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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/05/2019 23:52, Owen DeLong wrote:<br>
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Mike,
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<div class="">Yes and no. I believe that the lack of legacy
holders for any blocks issued under 4.1.8 reduces the need for
the market.</div>
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<div class="">Defunct organizations can easily be reclaimed in
this space because they stop paying their ARIN bill.</div>
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<div class="">Eliminating the resale value of these addresses
won’t really encourage squatting on them and limiting the size
of organization and size of block that can benefit from 4.1.8
further helps to reduce the potential for hoarding.</div>
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<div class="">I realize that as a broker, any address that can’t
be monetized is a lost opportunity for your organization, but I
think there’s plenty of addresses out there that haven’t been
processed through 4.1.8, so I don’t think limiting the resale
potential of such blocks to reduce fraud is a bad idea.</div>
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<div class="">Owen</div>
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<div class="">On May 28, 2019, at 12:46 , Mike Burns <<a
href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">mike@iptrading.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The
percentages of blocks transferred takes a significant
leap at the /19 size.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Below
that, the percentages are all below 7%.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">At /19 and
above, the percentages are all above 21%.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Seems like
a natural demarcation for maximum block size, but
prices do continue to rise.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">While we
want to fight fraud, we should still remember the
underlying reasons for the Ipv4 transfer market apply
to these addresses as well.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">That is,
the market provides incentives for efficient use and
accurate registration.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Regards,<br
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Mike<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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class="">From:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN-PPML
<<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net"
style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);
text-decoration: underline;" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b
class="">On Behalf Of<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>John
Curran<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday,
May 28, 2019 1:53 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
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List <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net"
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[arin-ppml]
Waiting List IPv4 blocks transferred after
issuance<br class="">
<b class="">Importance:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>High<o:p
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Folks - <o:p
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">It
occurred to me that it might be useful to have a
quick summary of waiting list blocks issued and
subsequently transferred. <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Attached
is the distribution (count per prefix size) of all
blocks that have been issued via ARIN's waiting list
policy and subsequently transferred via NRPM
8.2/8.3/8.4 policy.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">/John<o:p
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11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">John
Curran<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">President
and CEO<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">American
Registry for Internet Numbers<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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