<div dir="auto"><div>+1</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I also support /22 and believe that's a reasonable size for a waiting list, specially for a newcomer.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If anyone has official numbers of how much currentlly comes into the waiting list I am open to discuss a different size.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Fernando<br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 24 May 2019, 15:51 Scott Leibrand, <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">What rationale is there for a /21 limit vs. /22, other than “I need more than one /22, and think my needs for a second /22 are more important than others’ needs for a first”?<br>
<br>
Scott<br>
<br>
> On May 24, 2019, at 11:42 AM, Christian Lefrançois <<a href="mailto:clefranc@diffusionfermont.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">clefranc@diffusionfermont.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> I disagree with /22 limit, should be /21, the IPs received from the waiting<br>
> list should return to the waiting list in case of business cease, even if<br>
> CORP-A swallow CORP-B assets, all allocations received from the waiting list<br>
> should be annually reviewed and reentry on the waiting list should also be<br>
> annually.<br>
> <br>
> Sorry for my bad English.<br>
> <br>
> Christian Lefrançois<br>
> Diffusion Fermont<br>
> <br>
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> 1. Re: Revised - Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM<br>
> 4.1.8. Unmet Requests (Leif Sawyer)<br>
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> 4.1.8. Unmet Requests (=?utf-8?B?SGF5ZWUgQm9raGFyaQ==?=)<br>
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> 4.1.8. Unmet Requests (David Farmer)<br>
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> Message: 1<br>
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 17:32:13 +0000<br>
> From: Leif Sawyer <<a href="mailto:lsawyer@gci.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">lsawyer@gci.com</a>><br>
> To: Michael Williams <<a href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michael.williams@glexia.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Advisory Council Recommendation<br>
> Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests<br>
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> Michael, just to be clear:<br>
> <br>
> You don't support the policy allowing for the transfer of IPs received by<br>
> waitlist, for any reason?<br>
> <br>
> Including the purchase and transfer of all assets by Corp-A from Corp-B ,<br>
> regardless of current utilization of the IPs?<br>
> <br>
> --<br>
> Leif Sawyer<br>
> Enterprise Security Architect<br>
> Enterprise Security Office<br>
> GCI<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: ARIN-PPML [<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>] on behalf of Michael Williams<br>
> [<a href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michael.williams@glexia.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 9:18 AM<br>
> To: ARIN<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding<br>
> NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests<br>
> <br>
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> Representing ARIN member organisation GLEXI-3, I disagree with the language<br>
> of this policy proposal. Specifically:<br>
> <br>
> 1) The maximum waitlist size should be a /21<br>
> 2) The policy should require all IP allocations received from the waitlist<br>
> be returned to ARIN if they are no longer used. IP allocations received via<br>
> the waitlist should not be transferred, sold, or otherwise acquired in any<br>
> other fashion.<br>
> <br>
> Regards,<br>
> <br>
> Michael Williams<br>
> President/CEO Glexia, Inc<br>
> <br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> <br>
>> On 25 May 2019, at 03:04, ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">info@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> At their 16 May meeting, the Advisory Council revised their recommendation<br>
> regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests.<br>
>> <br>
>> The revised recommendation is hereby submitted to the Public Policy<br>
> Mailing List for a second community discussion period of 14 days, to<br>
> conclude on 7 June.<br>
>> <br>
>> Once completed, the Board of Trustees will review the AC?s recommendation<br>
> and the PPML discussion.<br>
>> <br>
>> The full text of the Advisory Council's revised recommendation is below.<br>
>> <br>
>> Sean Hopkins<br>
>> Policy Analyst<br>
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Advisory Council recommendation:<br>
>> <br>
>> This is an updated version which incorporates feedback from the ARIN staff<br>
> and was approved for further community consultation at the ARIN AC meeting<br>
> on May 16, 2019.<br>
>> <br>
>> In accordance with section 10.2 of the ARIN Policy Development Process,<br>
> the ARIN Advisory Council recommends the following actions to the Board of<br>
> Trustees in response to the Board?s suspension of part of the operation of<br>
> sections 4.1.8, 4.1.8.1<<a href="http://4.1.8.1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://4.1.8.1</a>> and 4.1.8.2<<a href="http://4.1.8.2" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://4.1.8.2</a>> of the<br>
> Numbering Resource Policy Manual:<br>
>> <br>
>> Replace section 4.1.8 et. seq. as follows, then reinstate the full<br>
> operation of sections 4.1.8, 4.1.8.1<<a href="http://4.1.8.1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://4.1.8.1</a>> and<br>
> 4.1.8.2<<a href="http://4.1.8.2" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://4.1.8.2</a>> immediately.<br>
>> <br>
>> 4.1.8 ARIN Waitlist<br>
>> <br>
>> ARIN will only issue future IPv4 assignments/allocations (excluding 4.4<br>
> and 4.10 space) from the ARIN Waitlist. The maximum size aggregate that an<br>
> organization may qualify for at any one time is a /22. Organizations will be<br>
> able to elect a smaller block size than they qualify for down to a /24. Only<br>
> organizations holding a /20 or less of IPv4 address space may apply and be<br>
> approved. Address space distributed from the waitlist will not be eligible<br>
> for transfer for a period of 60 months. This policy will be applied to all<br>
> future distributions from the waitlist to include those currently listed.<br>
>> <br>
>> Repeated requests, in a manner that would circumvent 4.1.6, are not<br>
> allowed: an organization currently on the waitlist must wait 90 days after<br>
> receiving a distribution from the waitlist before applying for additional<br>
> space. ARIN, at its sole discretion, may waive this requirement if the<br>
> requester can document a change in circumstances since their last request<br>
> that could not have been reasonably foreseen at the time of the original<br>
> request, and which now justifies additional space. Qualified requesters<br>
> whose request will also be advised of the availability of the transfer<br>
> mechanism in section 8.3 as an alternative mechanism to obtain IPv4<br>
> addresses.<br>
>> <br>
>> 4.1.8.1<<a href="http://4.1.8.1" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://4.1.8.1</a>> Sequencing<br>
>> <br>
>> The position of each qualified request on the waiting list will be<br>
> determined by the date it was approved. Each organization may have one<br>
> approved request on the waiting list at a time.<br>
>> <br>
>> 4.1.8.2<<a href="http://4.1.8.2" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://4.1.8.2</a>> Fulfillment<br>
>> <br>
>> ARIN will fulfill requests on a first-approved basis, subject to the size<br>
> of each available address block as address blocks become available for<br>
> distribution. A timely review of the original request may be conducted by<br>
> ARIN staff. Requests will not be partially filled. Any requests met through<br>
> a transfer will be considered fulfilled and removed from the waiting list.<br>
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> From: "=?utf-8?B?SGF5ZWUgQm9raGFyaQ==?=" <<a href="mailto:bokhari@cronomagic.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bokhari@cronomagic.com</a>><br>
> To: "=?utf-8?B?U2NvdHQgTGVpYnJhbmQ=?=" <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>>,<br>
> "=?utf-8?B?TWljaGFlbCBXaWxsaWFtcw==?=" <<a href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michael.williams@glexia.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "=?utf-8?B?YXJpbi1wcG1s?=" <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Advisory Council Recommendation<br>
> RegardingNRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests<br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:201905241340593981544@cronomagic.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">201905241340593981544@cronomagic.com</a>><br>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>
> <br>
> I support non-transferability of waitlist space and limited,<br>
> <br>
> However Transfer from one entity to other should be allowed,<br>
> <br>
> -When a merger is taken place<br>
> -A company goes out of business and trustee takes over<br>
> <br>
> I see while we are discussing limiting the waiting list to /21 or /22 there<br>
> are entries being added in waiting list for blocks bigger then /21, what<br>
> will happen to these waiting list entries, in other words what is the plan<br>
> for existing entries in the waiting list.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Thanks<br>
> <br>
> Hayee<br>
> <br>
> <br>
>> I support the AC?s recommendations, and consider them sufficient to resume<br>
> waitlist allocations.<br>
>> <br>
>> I would also be fine with Michael?s #2 (non-transferability of waitlist<br>
> space), but would consider that a new proposal. I don?t support a larger<br>
> (/21) limit.<br>
>> <br>
>> Scott<br>
>> <br>
>>> On May 24, 2019, at 10:18 AM, Michael Williams<br>
> <<a href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michael.williams@glexia.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Representing ARIN member organisation GLEXI-3, I disagree with the <br>
>>> language of this policy proposal. Specifically:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> 1) The maximum waitlist size should be a /21<br>
>>> 2) The policy should require all IP allocations received from the <br>
>>> waitlist be returned to ARIN if they are no longer used. IP <br>
>>> allocations received via the waitlist should not be transferred, <br>
>>> sold, or otherwise acquired in any other fashion.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Michael Williams<br>
>>> President/CEO Glexia, Inc<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>>> <br>
>>>> On 25 May 2019, at 03:04, ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">info@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> At their 16 May meeting, the Advisory Council revised their<br>
> recommendation regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> The revised recommendation is hereby submitted to the Public Policy<br>
> Mailing List for a second community discussion period of 14 days, to<br>
> conclude on 7 June.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Once completed, the Board of Trustees will review the AC?s<br>
> recommendation and the PPML discussion.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> The full text of the Advisory Council's revised recommendation is below.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Sean Hopkins<br>
>>>> Policy Analyst<br>
>>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Advisory Council recommendation:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> This is an updated version which incorporates feedback from the ARIN<br>
> staff and was approved for further community consultation at the ARIN AC<br>
> meeting on May 16, 2019.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> In accordance with section 10.2 of the ARIN Policy Development Process,<br>
> the ARIN Advisory Council recommends the following actions to the Board of<br>
> Trustees in response to the Board?s suspension of part of the operation of<br>
> sections 4.1.8, 4.1.8.1 and 4.1.8.2 of the Numbering Resource Policy Manual:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Replace section 4.1.8 et. seq. as follows, then reinstate the full<br>
> operation of sections 4.1.8, 4.1.8.1 and 4.1.8.2 immediately.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> 4.1.8 ARIN Waitlist<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> ARIN will only issue future IPv4 assignments/allocations (excluding 4.4<br>
> and 4.10 space) from the ARIN Waitlist. The maximum size aggregate that an<br>
> organization may qualify for at any one time is a /22. Organizations will be<br>
> able to elect a smaller block size than they qualify for down to a /24. Only<br>
> organizations holding a /20 or less of IPv4 address space may apply and be<br>
> approved. Address space distributed from the waitlist will not be eligible<br>
> for transfer for a period of 60 months. This policy will be applied to all<br>
> future distributions from the waitlist to include those currently listed.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Repeated requests, in a manner that would circumvent 4.1.6, are not<br>
> allowed: an organization currently on the waitlist must wait 90 days after<br>
> receiving a distribution from the waitlist before applying for additional<br>
> space. ARIN, at its sole discretion, may waive this requirement if the<br>
> requester can document a change in circumstances since their last request<br>
> that could not have been reasonably foreseen at the time of the original<br>
> request, and which now justifies additional space. Qualified requesters<br>
> whose request will also be advised of the availability of the transfer<br>
> mechanism in section 8.3 as an alternative mechanism to obtain IPv4<br>
> addresses.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> 4.1.8.1 Sequencing<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> The position of each qualified request on the waiting list will be<br>
> determined by the date it was approved. Each organization may have one<br>
> approved request on the waiting list at a time.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> 4.1.8.2 Fulfillment<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> ARIN will fulfill requests on a first-approved basis, subject to the<br>
> size of each available address block as address blocks become available for<br>
> distribution. A timely review of the original request may be conducted by<br>
> ARIN staff. Requests will not be partially filled. Any requests met through<br>
> a transfer will be considered fulfilled and removed from the waiting list.<br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
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> Message: 3<br>
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:55:41 -0500<br>
> From: David Farmer <<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">farmer@umn.edu</a>><br>
> To: Michael Williams <<a href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michael.williams@glexia.com</a>><br>
> Cc: ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">info@arin.net</a>>, ARIN-PPML List <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Advisory Council Recommendation<br>
> Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests<br>
> Message-ID:<br>
> <CAN-Dau2Tp6JotWr_V7pVFE90QwG8=<a href="mailto:XEt3MhVJijAn1ZC4RLXmg@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">XEt3MhVJijAn1ZC4RLXmg@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 12:18 PM Michael Williams <<br>
> <a href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michael.williams@glexia.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> Representing ARIN member organisation GLEXI-3, I disagree with the <br>
>> language of this policy proposal. Specifically:<br>
>> <br>
>> 1) The maximum waitlist size should be a /21<br>
>> <br>
> <br>
> Personally looking at the data I could be convinced /21 is OK from a fraud<br>
> prevention perspective. However, there seems to be a strong preference for<br>
> aligning with other RIRs on /22. That seems like as good of an argument as I<br>
> have seen for what is mostly an arbitrary choice. Do you have a better<br>
> argument for why it should be /21? Unfortunately, the arguments for /21 that<br>
> I remember have mostly boiled down to, "that is what I have been planning<br>
> for and need." I need more on why /21 is the right number over /22.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
>> 2) The policy should require all IP allocations received from the <br>
>> waitlist be returned to ARIN if they are no longer used. IP <br>
>> allocations received via the waitlist should not be transferred, sold, <br>
>> or otherwise acquired in any other fashion.<br>
>> <br>
> <br>
> I can't support the elimination of M&A and reorganization transfers, ARIN<br>
> should not be an impediment to how anyone organizes or reorganizes their<br>
> business. There is an argument that completely eliminating transfers just<br>
> incents people to go around the registry, reducing its accuracy, and after<br>
> 3 to 5 years, this shouldn't matter too much anyway, at least I hope that is<br>
> the case.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks.<br>
> --<br>
> ===============================================<br>
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> Networking & Telecommunication Services<br>
> Office of Information Technology<br>
> University of Minnesota<br>
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