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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Andrew,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My view is slightly more nuanced than yes/no. It depends on the impact of changing the goal posts on space that has already been allocated/assigned.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I support the policy as discussed but I have concern that it will get wrapped up over this issue.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Owen DeLong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 22, 2019 6:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew Dul <andrew.dul@quark.net><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-14: No Specified Transfers for 4.1.8.2 Blocks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I prefer that it apply to all blocks, not just going forward.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On May 21, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Andrew Dul <<a href="mailto:andrew.dul@quark.net">andrew.dul@quark.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">As the draft is written, I would assume it applies to all blocks issued under 4.1.8.2 because the draft policy doesn't state otherwise. We certainly
could craft the policy to only apply going forward or it could also be applicable to all wait-list blocks. <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">If members of the community have a preference for how this aspect should be handled that would be a good thing to comment on for this draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">On 5/21/2019 2:14 PM, Kevin Blumberg wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">A suggestion would be to put this in its own subsection and reuse the text in 4.2.3.8, removing the 36 months and adding allocation/assignment. Reuse of language is helpful as the language has already been vetted.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">4.1.8.3 IP allocations or assignments issued through 4.1.8 are non-transferable via section <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#8-3-transfers-between-specified-recipients-within-the-arin-region"><span style="color:purple">8.3</span></a> and
section <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#8-4-inter-rir-transfers-to-specified-recipients"><span style="color:purple">8.4</span></a>. In the case of a section <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#8-2-mergers-acquisitions-and-reorganizations"><span style="color:purple">8.2</span></a> transfer
the IP allocation or assignment must be utilized for the same purpose or needs based justification at a rate consistent with intended use.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">I assume this is moving forward and doesn’t affect blocks previously provided.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US">ARIN-PPML<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net"><span style="color:purple"><arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net></span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>William Herrin<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, May 21, 2019 4:08 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-14: No Specified Transfers for 4.1.8.2 Blocks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Add a second paragraph to<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://4.1.8.2/" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">4.1.8.2</span></a>:<br>
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IP allocations issued through 4.1.8.2 are non-transferable via section<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
8.3 and section 8.4. In the case of a section 8.2, transfer of the IP<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
assignment must be utilized for the same purpose or needs justified used<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white">"Organizations holding number resources issued through 4.1.8.2 shall be eligible to transfer IPv4 addresses to another organization only as allowed by section 8.2."<o:p></o:p></p>
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