<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I prefer that it apply to all blocks, not just going forward.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 21, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Andrew Dul <<a href="mailto:andrew.dul@quark.net" class="">andrew.dul@quark.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;">As the draft is written, I would assume it applies to all blocks issued under 4.1.8.2 because the draft policy doesn't state otherwise. We certainly could craft the policy to only apply going forward or it could also be applicable to all wait-list blocks. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;"><br class=""></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;">If members of the community have a preference for how this aspect should be handled that would be a good thing to comment on for this draft.<br class=""></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;"><br class=""></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;">Thanks,<br class=""></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;">Andrew<br class=""></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;"><br class=""></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;">On 5/21/2019 2:14 PM, Kevin Blumberg wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:7E7773B523E82C478734E793E58F69E70110B083CE@SBS2011.thewireinc.local" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">A suggestion would be to put this in its own subsection and reuse the text in 4.2.3.8, removing the 36 months and adding allocation/assignment. Reuse of language is helpful as the language has already been vetted.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">4.1.8.3 IP allocations or assignments issued through 4.1.8 are non-transferable via section <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#8-3-transfers-between-specified-recipients-within-the-arin-region" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">8.3</a> and section <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#8-4-inter-rir-transfers-to-specified-recipients" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">8.4</a>. In the case of a section <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#8-2-mergers-acquisitions-and-reorganizations" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">8.2</a> transfer the IP allocation or assignment must be utilized for the same purpose or needs based justification at a rate consistent with intended use.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">I assume this is moving forward and doesn’t affect blocks previously provided.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Thanks,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><br class="">Kevin Blumberg<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN-PPML<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>William Herrin<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, May 21, 2019 4:08 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:info@arin.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><info@arin.net></a><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-14: No Specified Transfers for 4.1.8.2 Blocks<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 11:06 AM ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">info@arin.net</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Draft Policy ARIN-2019-14: No Specified Transfers for 4.1.8.2 Blocks<br class=""><br class="">Policy Statement:<br class=""><br class="">Add a second paragraph to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://4.1.8.2/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">4.1.8.2</a>:<br class=""><br class="">IP allocations issued through 4.1.8.2 are non-transferable via section<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">8.3 and section 8.4. In the case of a section 8.2, transfer of the IP<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">assignment must be utilized for the same purpose or needs justified used<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">for the original 4.1.8 application.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></blockquote><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Too weak.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="" class="">"Organizations holding number resources issued through 4.1.8.2 shall be eligible to transfer IPv4 addresses to another organization only as allowed by section 8.2."</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Bill Herrin<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">William Herrin<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bill@herrin.us</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://bill.herrin.us/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://bill.herrin.us/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset><pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________
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