<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">John-<div><br></div><div>Do you mean predecessors instead of successors? I’ve added emphasis below.</div><div><br></div><div>[snip]</div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Legacy resource holders are parties (or their legal successors) who hold number resources issued to them by ARIN’s *successors* prior to ARIN’s inception in December 1997.</span></font></div></blockquote>[/snip]<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On 17 May 2019, at 10:27, John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>On 16 May 2019, at 10:20 PM, william manning <<a href="mailto:chinese.apricot@gmail.com">chinese.apricot@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>regarding legacy resources. it is true that historically numbering resources have been allocated/assigned to natural persons, which has always been a problem for ARIN. this fact is why, in part, there are two standard versions of the registration agreement and there are three "classes" of users, those under the registration agreement, those under the legacy registration agreement, and those not covered by any agreement. those not covered are legacy assignments/allocations that predate ARIN. As part of ARINs charter is an agreement with the USG to honour/serve legacy holders. Which ARIN does. That said, ARIN goes out of its way to encourage these folks to "onboard" with a legacy registration agreement. But there is no overt stick to force the change w/o violating ARINs agreement with the USG.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm sure John will clarify, maybe even Scott might chime in. </span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>Bill - </span><br><span></span><br><span>Good high-level introduction - let me fill in some details –</span><br><span></span><br><span>There’s actually one registration services agreement (RSA) at this point, and it provides the same services to all parties and nearly the same terms. There are two notable differences that apply to a legacy resource holder entering the agreement: 1) There is a total cap (currently y$125/year) on your annual maintenance fees for your organization); 2) If ARIN should be found to have violated the agreement and that leads to termination, then at termination, you retain the rights to your number resources that you had prior to entry. </span><br><span></span><br><span>Legacy resource holders are parties (or their legal successors) who hold number resources issued to them by ARIN’s successors prior to ARIN’s inception in December 1997. If you obtain an address block from a legacy resource holder, you are not a legacy resource holder unless you purchased the entire company (i.e. merger/acquisition) and thus are the legal successor. The reason that ARIN provides special pricing and terms for legacy resource holders is because we respect those organizations contributions to the earliest days of the Internet, and provide a voluntary path for them to formalize their rights via the RSA agreement with favorable terms, if they so choose. </span><br><span></span><br><span>Note that none of the above speaks to policy – ARIN’s policies apply to all resources in its registry, and all parties are welcome to participate, including legacy resource holders who haven’t entered any formal agreement for services with ARIN. The NSF press release issued at the time of ARIN’s formation <<a href="https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=102819">https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=102819</a>> shows NSF’s approval of the transition and notes that "Creation of ARIN will give the users of IP numbers (mostly Internet service providers, corporations and other large institutions) a voice in the policies by which they are managed and allocated within the North American region.” As such, legacy resource holders are encouraged to participate in the policy development process that sets the policy used for management of the ARIN registry. Legacy resource holders receive the same services that they always have - i.e. those that they were in place at ARIN’s inception, without any need for an agreement or payment of any fees. Legacy holders that want the all ARIN services available today must enter into a RSA and pay the modest capped maintenance fees which help support development of same.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thanks!</span><br><span>/John</span><br><span></span><br><span>John Curran</span><br><span>President and CEO</span><br><span>American Registry for Internet Numbers</span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>ARIN-PPML</span><br><span>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to</span><br><span>the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).</span><br><span>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:</span><br><span><a href="https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml">https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a></span><br><span>Please contact <a href="mailto:info@arin.net">info@arin.net</a> if you experience any issues.</span><br></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>