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At 06:18 PM 5/15/2019, John Curran wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">On 15 May 2019, at 2:47 PM, Tom
Fantacone <tom@iptrading.com> wrote:<br>
> If we remove the waiting list activity of this one fraudster, how
much<br>
> "statistically likely" fraud is left?<br>
> Was this one bad actor so bad that he accounted for almost all the
likely<br>
> fraud on the waiting list?<br>
> Do we still even have a waiting list problem?<br><br>
Approximately half of the address blocks that were received from the
waiting list and subsequently transferreed are affiliated with MICFO
entities.<br>
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That's a lot of addresses and a high percentage of all waiting list
allocations. The genesis of ARIN suspending the waiting list and
requesting/recommending changes to it to prevent fraud was the appearance
of "likely fraud" based on the behavior of a small
handful of bad actors robbing the waiting list of a large number of
addresses. Am I right to assume that there was really one bad actor
(with a handful of bad aliases)?<br><br>
Obviously ARIN cannot state with certainty that there is no other fraud
on the list, but if Micfo and its entities had never done what they did,
would ARIN have even seen a problem with the waiting list?<br><br>
John Sweeting's presentation of suspected waiting list abuse is
here:<br>
Youtube:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJHgs4wWO58">
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJHgs4wWO58</a><br>
Transcript:<br>
<a href="https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_42/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_5" eudora="autourl">
https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_42/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_5</a>
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If virtually all this misbehavior was this one guy, and he's been
stopped, do we still want to change the waiting list system and hurt the
overwhelming majority of honest players?<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">> Perhaps we still want to
take strong measures to prevent this from<br>
> happening in the future, but before making that determination, I'd
like<br>
> to know the answers to the above<br>
> <br>
> And on a related note, can anyone at ARIN tell us the total
aggregate<br>
> space that is currently being requested on the waiting
list?<br><br>
The entire waiting list is available here -
<a href="https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv4/waiting_list/" eudora="autourl">
https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv4/waiting_list/</a></blockquote>
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Thanks, John. I was looking for totals but the list was easy enough
to import into a spreadsheet and tally up. By my count the space
being requested totals to roughly 825K addresses, and about 775K is the
"minimum acceptable size" total. The 500K addresses ARIN
is reclaiming will go a long way in satisfying that demand.<br><br>
Are any of the existing waiting list requests from Micfo entities or have
those already been scrubbed?<br><br>
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Thanks!<br>
/John<br><br>
John Curran<br>
President and CEO<br>
American Registry for Internet Numbers</blockquote></body>
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