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<p>Everything that is in the waiting list should be limited to a /22
per request.<br>
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<p>There is no sense nor is reasonable now a days to fulfill a
request to a /18 or even a /15 which is the case there.</p>
<p>Perhaps it can be adjusted at some point and more people can be
more fairly served.<br>
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<p>Regards<br>
Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/05/2019 11:36, Tom Pruitt wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are currently 246 entries on the
waiting list that were there prior to the suspension. Maybe
some thought should go into allowing those organizations to
get their requested minimum acceptable prefix size using the
500k addresses ARIN is reclaiming. Anything that was added to
the list after Feb 7 2019 ( the date the suspension was
posted) would be subject to the new policy, whatever that may
be. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tom Pruitt <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> ARIN-PPML
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net"><arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Tom Fantacone<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 16, 2019 9:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Curran <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net"><jcurran@arin.net></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> arin-ppml <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net"><arin-ppml@arin.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Advisory Council
Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">At 06:18 PM 5/15/2019, John Curran wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 15 May 2019, at 2:47 PM, Tom Fantacone
<<a href="mailto:tom@iptrading.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">tom@iptrading.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> If we remove the waiting list activity of this one
fraudster, how much<br>
> "statistically likely" fraud is left?<br>
> Was this one bad actor so bad that he accounted for
almost all the likely<br>
> fraud on the waiting list?<br>
> Do we still even have a waiting list problem?<br>
<br>
Approximately half of the address blocks that were received
from the waiting list and subsequently transferreed are
affiliated with MICFO entities.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
That's a lot of addresses and a high percentage of all waiting
list allocations. The genesis of ARIN suspending the waiting
list and requesting/recommending changes to it to prevent
fraud was the appearance of "likely fraud" based on the
behavior of a small handful of bad actors robbing the waiting
list of a large number of addresses. Am I right to assume
that there was really one bad actor (with a handful of bad
aliases)?<br>
<br>
Obviously ARIN cannot state with certainty that there is no
other fraud on the list, but if Micfo and its entities had
never done what they did, would ARIN have even seen a problem
with the waiting list?<br>
<br>
John Sweeting's presentation of suspected waiting list abuse
is here:<br>
Youtube:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJHgs4wWO58"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJHgs4wWO58</a><br>
Transcript:<br>
<a
href="https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_42/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_5"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_42/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_5</a>
<br>
<br>
If virtually all this misbehavior was this one guy, and he's
been stopped, do we still want to change the waiting list
system and hurt the overwhelming majority of honest players?<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> Perhaps we still want to take strong
measures to prevent this from<br>
> happening in the future, but before making that
determination, I'd like<br>
> to know the answers to the above<br>
> <br>
> And on a related note, can anyone at ARIN tell us the
total aggregate<br>
> space that is currently being requested on the waiting
list?<br>
<br>
The entire waiting list is available here - <a
href="https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv4/waiting_list/"
moz-do-not-send="true">
https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv4/waiting_list/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Thanks, John. I was looking for totals but the list was easy
enough to import into a spreadsheet and tally up. By my count
the space being requested totals to roughly 825K addresses,
and about 775K is the "minimum acceptable size" total. The
500K addresses ARIN is reclaiming will go a long way in
satisfying that demand.<br>
<br>
Are any of the existing waiting list requests from Micfo
entities or have those already been scrubbed?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<br>
/John<br>
<br>
John Curran<br>
President and CEO<br>
American Registry for Internet Numbers<o:p></o:p></p>
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