<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hi John,<div><br></div><div>I’m confused... how is ARIN *not* a law enforcement body? I’ve always been told to believe ARIN enforces the rules of the internet.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Michael <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On 14 May 2019, at 20:29, John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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On 14 May 2019, at 7:54 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" class="">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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I can well and truly understand the reluctance of ARIN to specifically and/or<br class="">
explicitly call a spade a spade, or a crook a crook. That's OK. You don't<br class="">
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>From the official documents that I've already read so far in this case<br class="">
there is absolutely no doubt in my mind whatsoever. This guy Golestan is<br class="">
a crook. That word fits absolutely and like a glove. You know it. I know<br class="">
it. Anybody who reads the court documents will know it too.<br class="">
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<div class="">ARIN does "report unlawful activity to law enforcement whenever appropriate.”, but we are _not_ a law enforcement agency. </div>
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<div class="">The very fact that this guy is otherwise still a member in good standing<br class="">
of ARIN is somewhere beyond disgusting, and ought to be remedied, immediately<br class="">
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<div class="">In their participation in the ARIN registry, resource holders shall not <span style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:10pt" class="">violate applicable laws or statues. </span><font face="ArialMT" class=""><span style="font-size:12.333333015441895px" class="">A
party found (</span></font><span style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:12.333333015441895px" class="">by a competent judicial authority) </span><font face="ArialMT" class=""><span style="font-size:12.333333015441895px" class="">during their ARIN interactions
to have violated criminal statutes may also be in breach of their RSA agreements, and subject to ARIN suspension/termination/revocation proceedings. </span></font></div>
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<div class="">Are all ARIN member firms really so careless and cavalier about the reputation<br class="">
of the Internet, and "Internet governance" as a whole that you are all<br class="">
utterly and completely blind to the well known fact that, as it is said,<br class="">
if you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas?<br class="">
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The very fact of the continued membership of Mr. Golestan in this exclusive<br class="">
club, even after all that has happened and even given all that is now a matter<br class="">
of formal public record, is as damning as it is inexplicable.<br class="">
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You seek an express determination that inherently judicial in nature from ARIN; i.e. from a mere technical coordination body. </div>
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<div>Consider how you would feel if ARIN were undertaken such criminal judgements, unfettered from significant due process safeguards that the US legal system has refined over the years, etc.</div>
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<div>As wonderful as that may sound to you when applied to the “obvious crooks” that you pursue, you should consider if you’d feel the same if such a determination, absent any meaningful recourse, was errantly laid upon the properly-acting company of a good
friend or family member. In the US, we have a legal system with extensive due process protections not because lawyers like work, but because prior to legal judgement, all parties are presumed innocent. </div>
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<div class="">People in the business wonder why ordinary end-lusers don't trust the Intenet.<br class="">
This is why. It's because, to a lot of you, this is still the same old boys club,<br class="">
just like it was back in the 1990s, and nobody ever wants to ever hold anybody<br class="">
accountable for -anything-, in any way shape or form, because you're all scared<br class="">
to death that you yourselves may then be answerable for -something- at some<br class="">
unforseeable point in the future.<br class="">
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This isn't the kind of courageous leadership toward a brighter future that we<br class="">
revere our founding fathers... Washington, Adams, Jeffrson, Hamilton, Madison...<br class="">
for having had the foresight to have. Rather, this type of courage is more<br class="">
often associated with Barney Fife.</div>
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<div><chuckle> Alas, I’ll have to manage with that which is simply available to me as John Curran… It is likely insufficient for the job of “Internet Emperor” which you seem to be strongly advocating for, but should be enough to keep ARIN, a mere Regional
Internet Registry, running in a fair and equitable manner. </div>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
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