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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>There is provision for the forfeited assets to be substituted by other property of equal value if certain conditions are met.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>One of these conditions is if the assets have been transferred to a third person.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I think the pound of flesh will be forthcoming even if the addresses themselves are not recovered.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>But IANAL.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Douglas Haber <dhaber@gardenstatecomputing.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Mike Burns' <mike@iptrading.com>; 'Martin Hannigan' <hannigan@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> 'arin-ppml' <arin-ppml@arin.net><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [arin-ppml] Of further interest...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have reviewed the indictment and it has a forfeiture order in it. It lists the blocks and states that they shall be forfeited to the United States. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Now, my question is, does that affect ARIN reclaiming the blocks if they are surrendered to the government? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Douglas Haber<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Managing Member<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Garden State Computing, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Tel: (973) 636-7350<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><a href="http://www.gardenstatecomputing.com">www.gardenstatecomputing.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><a href="mailto:support@gardenstatecomputing.com">support@gardenstatecomputing.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> ARIN-PPML <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Burns<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com">hannigan@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> arin-ppml <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Of further interest...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I have the indictment as a pdf but I don't think I can attach it on this mailing list. It is public information though.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>I tried to convert it to text with bad results. If you can't find it and want to see it, let me know and I will put it up somewhere and link to it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="Zm-_Id_-Sgn1"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>---- On Wed, 15 May 2019 14:54:31 -0400 <b>Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com">hannigan@gmail.com</a>></b> wrote ----<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>And PR<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.postandcourier.com/business/charleston-tech-firm-and-its-ceo-are-indicted-for-fraud/article_4ce68788-773c-11e9-845d-d358d719d2df.html" target="_blank">https://www.postandcourier.com/business/charleston-tech-firm-and-its-ceo-are-indicted-for-fraud/article_4ce68788-773c-11e9-845d-d358d719d2df.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>/lawnchair<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 14:44 Mike Burns <<a href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com" target="_blank">mike@iptrading.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Other shoe dropped yesterday.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><a href="https://ecf.scd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/qrySummary.pl?250341" target="_blank">https://ecf.scd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/qrySummary.pl?250341</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>20 counts of wire fraud.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>ARIN-PPML<br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br>the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" target="_blank">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).<br>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br><a href="https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml" target="_blank">https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br>Please contact <a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank">info@arin.net</a> if you experience any issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>