<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 22:52 Jimmy Hess <<a href="mailto:mysidia@gmail.com">mysidia@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 9:30 PM Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" target="_blank">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>As I understand it, this guy has now been ordered, by a judge, to give<br>
back everything he stole.... except of course for the stuff that he<br>
can't give back, because he already fenced it to overseas buyers and<br>
thus, THAT stuff apparently... and for reasons that I personally am<br>
none too clear on... cannot be retrieved. Is that approximately a<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Perhaps "should not be retrieved" -- if some recipients of space were</div><div>legitimate companies with legitimately justifiable IP number needs in the</div><div>amount received; would be eligible for that amount of allocation under </div><div>the NRPM; and even with thorough due-diligence of their own could </div><div>not have known/suspected the transfer they were procuring would </div><div>come from a fraudulently-secured allocation...</div><div><br></div><div>By all means I hope ARIN pursue fraudsters and take back IP space</div><div>and disgorge them of any revenues to keep good stewardship of the</div><div>IP space, but try to minimize the damage to innocent operators....</div><div></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">ARIN isn’t a law enforcement agency. John has said as much. And I’m not sure ARIN has a right (or duty) to pursue the income generated from the activity. It’s likely that we’ll hear more about this in the future. Whether its a class action by disenfranchised parties or a criminal action by government authorities, we’ll see. At least ARIN’s role from a contract perspective seems closed for now. I took a look at this company earlier this evening. They may have money. That means they may have problems. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">ARIN enforced their agreement. Good work. Let’s not get too carried away here.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m making popcorn.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-M<</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>