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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/05/2019 00:53, William Herrin
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<div>On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:10 PM Hank Nussbacher
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> On 02/05/2019 21:06, John Curran wrote:<br>
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> > It is certainly possible to change the
rights provided with address<br>
> > block issuance to include routing
responsibilities, but that’s a<br>
> > rather significant change compared to ARIN’s
present scope of operations.<br>
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> So issuing an address block via ARIN is issued in
a vacuum with no<br>
> implied routing responsibilities? I also don't
understand why it would<br>
> be a significant change to add such
responsibility.<br>
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> "ARIN hereby allocates to you an IP address block
and hereby grants you<br>
> sole permission to announce that address block to
the Internet."<br>
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> Simple enough?<br>
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Hi Hank,<br>
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The Internet doesn't exist, not in any legal sense. It's a
conceptual framework of cooperating public and private
networks. ARIN has zero legal basis for exercising
authority over the operation of those individual networks.
Even ARIN's basic function as a registry relies entirely
on those network operators' ongoing choice to rely on ARIN
as an authoritative source of knowledge. <br>
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<p>So if you don't like the word Internet, replace it with whatever
word or phrase you are more comfortable with. If network
operators currently rely on ARIN as the authoritative source of IP
"ownership", why can't that mandate include a statement that we
accept them to also imply that that IP "ownership" also grants one
the sole ability to announce that IP block?<br>
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You're barking up the wrong tree here. ARIN can't exercise
any authority the network operators don't consent to it
exercising. It's that simple... and that complicated. You
have to convince a usefully large number of network owners
that they SHOULD cede ARIN new authority in this matter.<br>
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<p>Can you point me at the document or standard that the <b>network
operators</b> hereby granted ARIN the authority to allocate IP
addresses? I must have missed that. <br>
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<p>-Hank<br>
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