<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 2, 2019, at 00:26 , Marilson Mapa <<a href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com" class="">marilson.mapa@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">To be clear:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It's impressive what you, Owen, do to disqualify ARIN-prop-266. And it's amazing how some people strive not to discuss illicit acts by members of the community. The justification that it is outside the scope of the PDP or NRPM does not hold. Try to reconcile opposing arguments with the ARIN Code of Conduct.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I’m perfectly willing to discuss illicit acts by members of the community or others.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I’m unable to parse your last two sentences into a useful meaning. I understand you disagree that it is out</div><div>of scope, so I guess the penultimate sentence is parseable, but I don’t see how it relates or what is intended</div><div>by the last sentence.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">It is true that the vote will only require a new and equal assessment by the board of trustees (inside or outside the "scope"). The vote did not push the proposal forward, it just moved back to square one. For this reason I reproduce below excerpts from the ARIN Code of Conduct to require proper conduct:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"segoe ui",roboto,"helvetica neue",Arial,sans-serif,"apple color emoji","segoe ui emoji","segoe ui symbol";font-size:16.1px" class="">1.1 The Board of Trustees (“Board”) members share a commitment to NURTURE and SAFEGUARD American Registry for Internet Numbers, Ltd.’s (“ARIN”) REPUTATION and to act in the best interests of the organization.</span> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"segoe ui",roboto,"helvetica neue",Arial,sans-serif,"apple color emoji","segoe ui emoji","segoe ui symbol";font-size:16.1px" class="">3.1 Everything we do in connection with our work at ARIN is measured against the highest customary standards of ETHICAL and PROFESSIONAL behavior. ARIN’s commitment to these highest standards helps bring great people into the ARIN community and encourages their lasting participation.</span><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"segoe ui",roboto,"helvetica neue",Arial,sans-serif,"apple color emoji","segoe ui emoji","segoe ui symbol";font-size:16.1px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"segoe ui",roboto,"helvetica neue",Arial,sans-serif,"apple color emoji","segoe ui emoji","segoe ui symbol";font-size:16.1px" class="">5.2 ARIN Board members are expected to adhere to the highest standards of behavior and decorum.</span> <span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"segoe ui",roboto,"helvetica neue",Arial,sans-serif,"apple color emoji","segoe ui emoji","segoe ui symbol";font-size:16.1px" class=""><br class=""></span></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I am well aware of these, but I”m not sure why you think they prevent the board from upholding the AC decision.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I have no direct knowledge of the board’s current thinking on the matter.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Nonetheless, we do have a long history of precedent that the NRPM covers the policies by which the registry is governed, but does not cover the operational practices of the organization. The proposal in question is mostly about those operational practices and not about the policy governing resource registrations.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Marilson</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em qua, 1 de mai de 2019 às 02:12, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> escreveu:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Speaking only as myself…<br class="">
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To be clear to all those that are supporting this as a discussion petition… It is not.<br class="">
<br class="">
It is a petition to have the board of trustees reconsider the determination by the AC that<br class="">
the proposal was out of scope of the PDP.<br class="">
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I believe the proposal to be out of scope because the remedies it proposes are generally<br class="">
outside of the scope of the NRPM.<br class="">
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I must, however, wonder how much of the support is for something that isn’t the subject<br class="">
of the petition given the number of comments like the one below.<br class="">
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To be clear, the proposal can be discussed on PPML without being accepted onto the<br class="">
docket of the advisory council and without having draft policy status. There is nothing<br class="">
preventing discussion of the proposal at this time other than the choice of community<br class="">
members on this list to refrain from doing so.<br class="">
<br class="">
Owen<br class="">
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> On Apr 30, 2019, at 04:57 , Jay Borkenhagen <<a href="mailto:jayb@braeburn.org" target="_blank" class="">jayb@braeburn.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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> I support this discussion petition.<br class="">
> <br class="">
> Jay B.<br class="">
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