<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Jordi,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A small point on your post below. I read your comment below that you feel that discussion of your policy idea is not possible until accepted. This is not in fact the case as it relates to PPML. As you can see from the mailing list description (posted below) there is no need for a policy idea to have a formal number to be discussed. As long as posts fall within the mailing list AUP free discussion is encouraged. Historically we even saw many policy ideas get early feedback on PPML prior to them becoming formal policies. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So I think continued feedback on your proposal should be encouraged. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Paul</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">—</div><div class="">Paul Andersen</div><div class="">Chair, ARIN Board of Trustees</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>>>>>> </div><div>Open to the general public. Provides a forum to raise and discuss policy-related ideas and issues surrounding existing and proposed ARIN policies. The PPML list is an intrinsic part of ARIN’s Policy Development Process, which details how proposed policies are handled.<br class=""><br class="">Discussion on PPML can cover a variety of policy related topics, and ARIN encourages free discussion. ARIN announcements to the PPML about policy proposals or draft policies include the proposal number or draft policy number in the subject field. Please retain the policy number in the subject line when you make comments about specific proposals or draft policies. Your post or reply should open with a statement of support or nonsupport for the topic to allow others to follow discussions of interest more easily and make your position clear.</div><div><<<<<</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 29, 2019, at 2:28 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" class="">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Right, I was about to respond as well, but I think at this stage we should keep the discussion on the petition.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">All those details could be agreed once we have the proposal adopted for the discussion. In fact, we have a new version ready (v2, being published in RIPE soon) with have a lot of additional details on that, which is part of the outcome of several weeks of discussion on our RIPE v1 of this proposal.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><br class="">Regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">Jordi<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">El 29/4/19 20:17, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de William Herrin" <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>en nombre de<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bill@herrin.us</a>> escribió:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:53 AM Mike Arbrouet <<a href="mailto:mike@brainiacsquad.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mike@brainiacsquad.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">> Can anyone (policy expert) help me out with some ambiguities<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">> regarding the selection procedures of the Expert's Pool? These<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">> clarifications are important for me to be able to make a decision on<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">> supporting/rejecting the [arin-ppml] Open Petition for <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">> ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation.<br class=""><br class="">Hi Mike,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Respectfully, we're at a different part of the conversation here. The only decision you're asked to make about the petition is whether we should be discussing the proposal at all. The formulation of the experts pool (or whether the proposal retains a shape that needs an experts pool) is a discussion for later (or never) depending on your choice on the petition.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">As you decide whether to support the petition, the petition to discuss and work on the proposal, consider: you dived in to and discussed the proposal's details.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Bill Herrin<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p class=""> </o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.4pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">William Herrin ................<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:herrin@dirtside.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">herrin@dirtside.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> <a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">bill@herrin.us</a><br class="">Dirtside Systems ......... 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