<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 10:30 AM Job Snijders <<a href="mailto:job@ntt.net">job@ntt.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 01:43:36PM +0000, John Curran wrote:<br>> On 9 Apr 2019, at 9:33 AM, Job Snijders <<a href="mailto:job@ntt.net" target="_blank">job@ntt.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:job@ntt.net" target="_blank">job@ntt.net</a>>> wrote:<br>> > I'd like to draw the community's attention to the following joint<br>> > announcement from two of Africa's largest IP transit providers.<br>> > ...<br>> > It should be incontestable now that ARIN resource holders are at a<br>> > disadvantage when it comes to RPKI services.<br>> <br>> Job -<br>> <br>> Indeed. It’s similarly incontestable that customers of those service<br>> providers are at a disadvantage to customers of other service provider<br>> in Africa that do provide complete routing validation including for<br>> ARIN-region resource holders. One of the benefits of our loosely<br>> coordinated Internet is that service providers have autonomy in how<br>> they run their network, and customers have autonomy in selection of<br>> their service providers.<br>
<br>Yes, exactly. In this instance ARIN is the exclusive provider of RPKI<br>services for our North American IPv6 resources. The ARIN-2019-4 proposal<br>addresses the exclusivity issue and will provide us autonomy in selection<br>of our service provider.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Isn't this exclusivity what ICP-2 and the RPKI RFCs intend? It seems to me the RPKI RFCs intended there to be a global trust anchor, the change away from a global trust anchor to regionalization of the trust anchors is at least partially responsible for the issues at hand. </div><div><br></div><div>Further, transferring IPv6 or other resources, or as you put it selecting your RIR, seems to only be an option for some operators, those operators that operate in multiple regions. Many operators only operate in the ARIN region, for these operators, I don't see how it is possible to transfer their resources to another RIR, IPv4, ASNs, or IPv6. So, this doesn't seem to be a complete solution. You seem to be leaving a lot of people behind with this solution.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">===============================================<br>David Farmer <a href="mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu" target="_blank">Email:farmer@umn.edu</a><br>Networking & Telecommunication Services<br>Office of Information Technology<br>University of Minnesota <br>2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815<br>Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952<br>===============================================</div></div>