<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 6, 2019, at 2:15 AM, Erik Bais <<a href="mailto:ebais@a2b-internet.com" class="">ebais@a2b-internet.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="NL" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Hi,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="NL" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">I would like to propose to focus on number resources and limit the usage of IPv4, IPv6 or AS numbers in policy text as much as possible. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">We made this step in the RIPE transfer policies a couple years ago ( example the RIPE transfer policy : <a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-682" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-682</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">It will allow for easier / more general policies and it still allows to limit transfer limitations for specific resources.. like 16 bit AS’ns or IPv4 space. (scares resources )<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">On the topic of looking for shopping for the better RIR policies or cheaper RIR’s, I don’t think that is something we should be too worried about. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Most RIR’s have a requirement for usage in the service region where the RIR is anyway.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Most RIRs require you to announce some or all of your space in-region. They don’t have a policy which prohibits use in other regions. As a result, most organizations that would have the option of forum shopping under this proposal would be perfectly capable of doing so and would face little resistance from those policies.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Dis-allowing transfers for IPv6 and saying to people that they would have to renumber and request new resources from other RIR’s, will not increase the adoption of v6 usage.</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Anyone who cares about not renumbering their IPv6 has already deployed IPv6, so this is a specious argument at best.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>As has been pointed out by others, if you’re moving your infrastructure physically from one locale to another, you almost always end up renumbering in that process in order to support a phased move. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>Owen</div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""></body></html>