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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Guy, all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Because I see my name here, I’m just guessing that your opinion is not about this policy proposal (2018-5), as per the subject, but about ARIN-2019-4: Allow Inter-regional IPv6 Resource Transfers ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think is important to clarify for the PDP decision process.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 3/4/19 1:35, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de Tal, Guy" <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a> en nombre de <a href="mailto:guy.tal@centurylink.com">guy.tal@centurylink.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>FWIW, I think we should treat v6 the same as v4 and concur with Jordi, Morrow et all. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:35.4pt;line-height:17.25pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#00853F'>Guy Tal</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br>Senior Director, Product Management<br>14605 S 50<sup>th</sup> Street, Phoenix, AZ, 85044</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><img border=0 width=200 height=43 style='width:2.0833in;height:.4479in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D4EA08.08DD0F10" alt="cl_logo"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>From:</b> ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jo Rhett<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> Owen Delong <owen@delong.com><br><b>Cc:</b> arin-ppml@arin.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2018-5: Disallow Third-party Organization Record Creation<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>On Apr 1, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>as it occurs to me that the following dilemma comes into play:<br><br>I, as a contractor, often create ORG records for (and at the request of) my clients. I’m not their ISP and I’m not creating the records without their knowledge or informed consent (which is the real problem here). In fact, I only create them when I am in the process of preparing an IP and/or ASN request for them.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>I agree completely with everything Owen said, as I often work in the same capacity.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>There also exists situations where a data center (or other organizations) which doesn't own or provide IP assists its customers with preparation of documents for self-management. Perhaps even coarser, there are datacenter utilities and programs that help people prepare or fill out forms. This is under the direction or express action of the customer, but may be generated programatically.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>It's hard to read the current proposal and understand the responsibilities in that context. I think we should be friendly to automation opportunities for people who only interact with ARIN once or twice in their organization's lifetime. 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