<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Here are some simplified text and a update the title. I think using an "at least one" standard creates an appropriate burden for organizations submitting reallocation or detailed reassignment requests while ensuring POCs are notified and there is minimal validity based on the standard in section 3.6.5. Having all POCs valid for a request to move forward is probably too high of a burden for organizations submitting reallocation or detailed reassignment requests.</div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><div>3.7 POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or Reallocation </div><div><br></div><div>When an organization submits a reallocation or detailed reassignment request to ARIN, it must contain at least one POC object which is currently valid in the ARIN database. If none the POC objects are valid, ARIN shall immediately reject the request. </div><div><br></div><div>ARIN will notify, via email, all POC objects associated with such requests as to its result, successful or rejected, along with a request to validate any invalid POC objects.</div></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 1:35 PM David Farmer <<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu">farmer@umn.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I like this approach. However, I have a question, do all the POC objects need to be valid or does at least one of the POC objects need to be valid? </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">If we care we might want to be more specific on that point, I think it is possible to read the current text either way right now.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>I think I like at least one POC MUST be valid, then notify all POCs of the detailed reassignment or reallocation, and of any other POCs that are invalid.</div><div><br></div><div>In other words, only fail if all the POCs are invalid.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 1:23 PM Andrew Dul <<a href="mailto:andrew.dul@quark.net" target="_blank">andrew.dul@quark.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_2639179696160364571m_-8028489071730190452moz-cite-prefix">I'd like to propose to the community a
rewrite of 2017-12 that would hopefully bring it in line with the
Implementation B option of the Staff Implementation memo.<br>
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What do others think of this approach?<br>
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Andrew<br>
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Policy statement:
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Insert one new section into NRPM 3:
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3.7 POC Validation Upon Reassignment or Reallocation
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When an organization submits a valid reallocation or detailed
reassignment request to ARIN, the reallocation or reassignment
record must contain POC objects which are currently valid in the
ARIN database. If the POC objects are not valid, ARIN shall
immediately reject the reallocation or reassignment request.
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If the reassignment or relocation record is inserted into the
database, ARIN will email the POCs associated with the new record
notifying them of the new resource being attached to their POC.
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If the reassignment or relocation record fails to be inserted
because the POCs are not currently valid, ARIN should send an
email notification to the associated POCs that a reassignment or
reallocation record was rejected because their POC is not
currently valid, and provide a link for the user to validate their
POC.
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On 8/27/2018 8:12 AM, John Curran wrote:<br>
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<pre>On 31 July 2018, the ARIN Board of Trustees remanded Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: Require New POC Validation Upon Reassignment to the Advisory Council, noting:
"The ARIN Board of Trustees remands ARIN Recommended Draft Policy 2017-12: Require New POC Validation Upon Reassignment to the ARIN Advisory Council. Noting the complexity of the policy, the Board wants a more complete policy assessment of technical soundness, and recommends interviews by the Advisory Council with ISPs who make numerous delegation requests including those with IP management platforms, if such interviews have not been already conducted."
The Advisory Council is considering the remand of the Recommended Draft Policy and appropriate next steps.
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<pre>Note also that the ARIN Board of Trustees reviewed the AC recommendation as well as a Staff Implementation Assessment memo when considering disposition of Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12. A copy of that Staff Implementation Assessment memo is attached as background.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
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