<div dir="ltr">I very much support fixing the problem that ARIN Staff has brought to our attention. I don't have a strong opinion as to if this is the preferred solution to the problem. However, there did seem to be a slight preference by the community for this solution over ARIN-2017-9 at the Maimi meeting. <div><br></div><div>Therefore, I support this draft policy and encourage others to make their opinions known. <br><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Thanks.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Andrew Dul <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew.dul@quark.net" target="_blank">andrew.dul@quark.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>The AC has recently been discussing this draft policy and noted
that we have not heard from the community since this new text has
been posted. We would like to hear from you on if we should move
this policy to recommended. <br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>I believe the new text fixes the discrepancy, for initial ISP
allocations, which depends on if the organization initially
applies under section4 or section8. This policy fixes this issue
in section4 by requiring the same documentation (as required under
the section8 transfer policy) for a new ISP requesting a block
larger than a /24.<br>
</p>
<p>I support this draft policy.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Andrew<br>
</p>
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<div class="m_3083927057782135168moz-cite-prefix">On 6/23/2018 1:18 PM, Kerrie
Vassall-Richards wrote:<br>
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<li><b>Clarification to ISP initial allocation and permit
renumbering</b><br>
</li>
<li>Proposal Originator<br>
</li>
<ul>
<li>name: Jason Schiller</li>
<li>email: <a rel="nofollow" class="m_3083927057782135168external m_3083927057782135168gmail-text" href="mailto:jschiller@google.com" style="background:url("") 100% 50% no-repeat;text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,187);padding-right:18px" target="_blank">jschiller@google.com</a></li>
<li>telephone: 202-258-8863</li>
<li>organization: Google LLC</li>
</ul>
<li>Date: 02/01/2017<br>
</li>
<li><b>Problem Statement:</b><br>
</li>
</ol>
<p style="margin:1em 0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">As
discussed in more detail in ARIN-2017-9 and noted in the ARIN
40 Policy Experience Report, the criteria to qualify for an
initial block of address space in 4.2.2 and 8.5.4 are seeming
at odds with each other. At ARIN 41 the community seemed to
prefer the approach contained in this policy over the approach
in ARIN-2017-9, which was subsequently abandoned. <br>
<br>
Moreover, as the NRPM (2018-1) currently sits, 4.2.2 appears
to state that an initial allocation of up to a /21 could be
granted without any more justification than needed to qualify
for a /24. Therefore, 4.2.2 should be modified, allowing an
initial allocation of only a /24 without any additional
justification and allowing an initial allocation of up to a
/21 when justified by a 24-month allocation plan.</p>
<p style="margin:1em 0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><b>Policy
Statement:</b></p>
<p style="margin:1em 0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Replace
the current Section 4.2.2 with:<br>
<br>
4.2.2. Initial allocation to ISPs<br>
<br>
All ISP organizations without direct assignments or
allocations from ARIN qualify for an initial allocation of up
to a /21, subject to ARIN's minimum allocation size.<br>
<br>
All ISP organizations without direct allocations, direct
assignments, re-allocations or reassignments automatically
qualify for a /24. These organizations are exempt from
requirements of showing the efficient utilization of
previously held IPv4 space. These organizations may qualify
for a larger than a /24 by documenting how the requested
allocation will be utilized within the request size specified
in 4.2.4.3</p>
<p style="margin:1em 0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">ISPs
holding re-allocations and/or reassignments must show the
efficient utilization of their resources consistent with the
requirements in sections 4.2.3 and 4.2.4<br>
</p>
<p style="margin:1em 0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><b>Comments:</b></p>
<p style="margin:1em 0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">The
timetable for Implementation: Immediate</p>
<p style="margin:1em 0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><b>Anything
Else:</b></p>
<p style="margin:1em 0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">This
is an attempt to clarify the changes that came about from
2016-4.<br>
It also aligns section 4.2 with current transfer policy.<br>
It also re-established the understanding that ISP can renumber
and return, but putting the last section 4.2.2.1.4 into the
ISP additional requests section. This text is slightly
modified to include returns to ARIN in addition to returns to
the upstream.</p>
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