<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">This is one unavoidable issue with this proposal. ISPs will effectively be forced into a workflow where a ISP must allocate addresses and submit the SWIP prior to routing the block, and then not start routing until the POC is validated, unless ISPs want to risk customer impact/ire from having to withdraw the routing 10 days afterwards should the POC not complete the validation.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Personally, I consider this a positive change in process, but those actually handling customer turnups are welcome to disagree.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-C</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Delacruz, Anthony B <<a href="mailto:Anthony.DeLaCruz@CenturyLink.com" class="">Anthony.DeLaCruz@CenturyLink.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">The reject will likely alert us but my systems are not setup to wait 10+ day and then have to go sort out fixing it. I’m worried this is probably going to break some of that. Legacy Centurylink going back thru the Qwest side have done a pretty good job of submitting to whois, other companies we have purchased not so well and we’re working to improve that but it’s a constant battle of staff and use of time. We won’t allocate folks to go chase down customers to click off approval. Asking to do on the phone also not likely as a great many of offerings are moving to more automation. We have entire service classes that can be ordered online, instantly provisioned and activated and then the customer plugs into a prewired/fiber’d port never once interacting with a human. Concerned about both 10 limbo and the loss of info that might be a lead for LEO’s at the very least. I’ve used at least company name and phone number 100’s of times when the poc was old outdated as a starting point in trying to reach folks for issues it would be unfortunate not to have at least.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jason Schiller [<a href="mailto:jschiller@google.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:jschiller@google.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, April 18, 2018 9:01 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Delacruz, Anthony B<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN-PPML List<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2017-12: Require POC Validation Upon Reassignment<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Anthony,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I hear you. And I think we should try a "lets do better" approach.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I think the goal here is to get good SWIP data, and make sure the <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">contact info is correct.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">This specific approach is an attempt to prevent a SWIP targeting<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">a (wrong) unwitting victim. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">In your case I believe you are suggesting you collected the proper <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">contact info, and explained it will be included in the SWIP, and <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">verified that they don't have a pre-existing OrgID or POC, to<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">SWIP to. But then they drop the ARIN email. And the SWIP<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">gets rejected.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Rejected SWIPs from email templates get an email<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">from ARIN Hostmaster <<a href="mailto:hostmaster@arin.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">hostmaster@arin.net</a>><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">with a subject including --REJECTED<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Is this sufficient for you to track down the <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">customers who didn't ack, and fix this issue?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Is there a better way to loop the ISP back in<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">and unwedge the stuck request?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Would an ARIN Online page of here are all the SWIPs<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">that cannot be SWIP'd due to pending ACK help?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">A button to resend the request (while your customer <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">is on the phone)? <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Are you concerned about the 10 days it is in limbo?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Or the long term stuff that never gets acked?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">__Jason<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 4:54 PM Delacruz, Anthony B <<a href="mailto:Anthony.DeLaCruz@centurylink.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Anthony.DeLaCruz@centurylink.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Howdy folks I very much hope I’m not a significant part of this problem but we do submit 50-100 reassigns a week. If there is any evidence of us causing trouble in the data I’d be happy to try to run it down and improve. As noted by others we do this primarily to offload abuse but also to assist LEO’s and to be upfront with the community how our space is being use. We also try as hard as we can to populate those records with valid info and have our sales guys collect and input into our system then the provisioning team validates at turn up and the system auto generates at activation the record. I worry greatly that if an entry we send up goes unvalidated for 10 days that it must be deleted. I think you are going to be losing a lot of good data of legit usage simply because folks maybe too lazy to click off on an acknowledgment. If implemented I could be sending all these updates and not seeing them appear and wondering till 10 days down the road which ones I have to reattempt? Will there be a notification back that the record did not populate? That reattempt piece will be a lot of fun to workout with our IT guys I can tell you it’ll just be dropped for a long time until they work out the code to automate and thus usability of whois will be impacted.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Anthony Delacruz</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Senior Lead Engineer</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">IP Admin Backbone Planning and Design</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Office: +1 703 363 8503</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><a href="mailto:Anthony.DeLaCruz@CenturyLink.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Anthony.DeLaCruz@CenturyLink.com</a></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><a href="mailto:ipadmin@centurylink.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ipadmin@centurylink.com</a></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN-PPML [mailto:<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>John Santos<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, April 17, 2018 1:58 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2017-12: Require POC Validation Upon Reassignment</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I think anyone who supplies someone else's email address to a third party without their permission is responsible for any mail they receive. Unless a SWIPer has permission from their customer to SWIP the customer's email address, the ISP doing the SWIPing is responsible, not ARIN. If they do this repeatedly or as a matter of course, they should be barred from SWIPing and any subnets they have previously SWIPed should revert to them, making them responsible for all network abuse and connectivity problems originating from those subnets.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Isn't the entire point of SWIP to allow ISPs to offload the abuse and other points of contact to their customers, who presumably are more capable of dealing with the issues? And shouldn't the customers expect to receive email at those POC addresses as part of that? Either the ISP has explained that to their customers, who have agreed to this, in which case no mail sent to them as a consequence is SPAM, or the ISP has not, in which case the POC (and SWIP) should be removed or never allowed in the first place.<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On 4/17/2018 11:11 AM, Christian Tacit wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hi Jason,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">After discussion with staff, I can report that it would be much easier to send a notification to the email that is swipped as the POC but to add in any type of ACK or NACK turns it into a very, very heavy lift for the organizations as it completely changes the flow. Furthemore, the addition of a requirement for a response could end up creating issues (whether real or perceived) that ARIN would be sending UCE (Unsolicited Commercial Email) (SPAM) to all of those contacts as we do not have a formal relationship with them.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Chris<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><br class="">Christian S. Tacit,<br class="">Tacit Law<br class=""><br class="">P.O. Box 24210 RPO Hazeldean<br class="">Kanata, Ontario<br class="">K2M 2C3 Canada<br class=""><br class="">Tel: +1 613 599 5345<br class="">Fax: +1 613 248 5175<br class="">E-mail:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ctacit@tacitlaw.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" class="">ctacit@tacitlaw.com</span></a><br class=""><br class="">This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is subject to copyright, privileged, confidential, proprietary or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, distributing, copying or in any way using this message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and destroy or delete copies you may have received.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jason Schiller<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jschiller@google.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><jschiller@google.com></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>April 16, 2018 3:05 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Christian Tacit<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ctacit@tacitlaw.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><ctacit@tacitlaw.com></a><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN-PPML List<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><arin-ppml@arin.net></a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2017-12: Require POC Validation Upon Reassignment<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Chris,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Thanks. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">One of the problems with POC validation is that ARIN tries to validate all POCS, and does not have a relationship with some.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">There is a proposal to reduce the validation to only the set of POCs that ARIN has a direct relationship with.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">This is problematic because it is through this annual validation that one finds they have become a POC on some resource.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">So without out the annual check, those organizations will NOT have the awareness and knowledge to resolve that issue between themselves.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">The solution is a bi-directional check. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I think the ARIN objection is that it is problematic for the SWIPee to modify the record of the SWIPer.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">But I see no problem with the SWIPee getting notified, or even ACKing or NACKIing the SWIP.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">__Jason<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 2:23 PM Christian Tacit <<a href="mailto:ctacit@tacitlaw.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ctacit@tacitlaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hi Jason,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Although I did look into the issue raised by your March 15 email promptly after receiving it. I inadvertently forgot to reply to you. Please accept my apology.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Based on ARIN Staff input, a major impediment to the proposed Section 3.8 is that ARIN cannot be involved in the contractual relationship between its customer and any of the customer’s customers. The ARIN customer may be submitting a simple reassignment, precisely because it wants to maintain control over POC records. Examples may include branches located in different states of an entity that may want to use address information corresponding to its head office and or other locations in which it has a presence. If there is a dispute with an entity that already has an OrgID with ARIN and its upstream provider on how to register the entity’s reassignments, those organizations will have the awareness and knowledge to resolve that issue between themselves.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Chris<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jason Schiller <<a href="mailto:jschiller@google.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jschiller@google.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>March 15, 2018 4:29 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Christian Tacit <<a href="mailto:ctacit@tacitlaw.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ctacit@tacitlaw.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2017-12: Require POC Validation Upon Reassignment<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">This problem is not scoped only to with a new POC is created.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">This was also supposed to be a check in 3.7 to insure a resource is not<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">randomly SWIP'd to a pre-existing org.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">3.8 was intended to chatch when a resource is SWIP'd to a pre-existing org, <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">but that org ID is not used, and that org's address is put into a reassign simple.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">I don't see how this is not implementable..<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">- If the compnay name is a match for something ARIN already has a relationship with,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> then they should have good contact info.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">- If the contact info is a known address of a compnay that ARIN already has a <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> relationship with, then they should have good contact info for that compnay.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">- If all else fails they can send a post card to the mailing address.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">At a mimimum, if the post card is undeliverable, or a holder of the the post card<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">contacts ARIN, they should revoke the SWIP.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">___Jason<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 5:47 PM, Christian Tacit <<a href="mailto:ctacit@tacitlaw.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ctacit@tacitlaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Dear Community Members,</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">The shepherds for the Draft Policy 2017-12: Require POC Validation Upon Reassignment, are making two changes to its text.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">First, the problem statement is being expanded a bit to explain how POCs for reassigned blocks can be assigned without the knowledge of the individuals so assigned under the present policy.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Second, proposed section 3.8 has been deleted. This is because it is unintentionally misleading because a simple reassignment results in a customer identifier versus an OrgID. There is no contact information contained in a simple reassignment other than street address that could be used for notification, and thus it does not appear that the proposed NRPM 3.8 policy text is implementable. Even if notification were possible, the “OR postal address” in this section may also cause significant problems for some companies as many companies have the same name associated with many different locations and there are several locations that have many companies registered there.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Based on these changes, the revised text reads:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; border: 1pt none windowtext; padding: 0in;" class="">Version Date: March 12, 2018</span></strong><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; border: 1pt none windowtext; padding: 0in;" class=""> </span></strong><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; border: 1pt none windowtext; padding: 0in;" class="">Problem Statement:</span></strong><o:p class=""></o:p></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 6pt; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; word-spacing: 0px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Some large ISPs assign individuals to be POCs for reassigned blocks without consultation of the individual they are inserting into Whois. For example, during the reassignment/reallocation process, some large ISPs automatically create POCs from their customer’s order form. This process is automated for many ISPs and therefore the resulting POCs are not validated prior to being created in the ARIN Whois database. This creates unknowing POCs that have no idea what Whois is or even who ARIN is at the time they receive the annual POC validation email. It can also create multiple POCs per email address causing that same person to receive a multitude of POC Validation emails each year.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 6pt; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">This policy proposal seeks to improve the situation where a POC is unwittingly and unintentionally inserted into Whois.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 6pt; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; word-spacing: 0px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">It also seeks to mitigate the significant amount of time that ARIN staff reports that they spend fielding phone calls from POCs who have no idea they are in Whois.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 6pt; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; word-spacing: 0px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Finally, it is hopeful that this proposal will improve the overall POC validation situation, by forcing ISPs and customers to work together to insert proper information into Whois at the time of sub-delegation.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; border: 1pt none windowtext; padding: 0in;" class=""> </span></strong><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; border: 1pt none windowtext; padding: 0in;" class="">Policy statement:</span></strong><o:p class=""></o:p></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 6pt; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; word-spacing: 0px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Insert one new section into NRPM 3:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 6pt; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; word-spacing: 0px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">3.7 New POC Validation Upon Reassignment</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 6pt; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; word-spacing: 0px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">When an ISP submits a valid reallocation or detailed reassignment request to ARIN which would result in a new POC object being created, ARIN must (before otherwise approving the request) contact the new POC by email for validation. ARIN's notification will, at a minimum, notify the POC of:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 6pt; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; word-spacing: 0px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">- the information about the organization submitting the record; and<br class="">- the resource(s) to which the POC is being attached; and<br class="">- the organization(s) to which the POC is being attached.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; margin-bottom: 6pt; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; word-spacing: 0px; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">If the POC validates the request, the request shall be accepted by ARIN and the new objects inserted into Whois. If the POC does not validate the request within 10 days, ARIN must reject the request.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; word-spacing: 0px;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; border: 1pt none windowtext; padding: 0in;" class=""> </span></strong><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; line-height: 18pt; background-color: white;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; border: 1pt none windowtext; padding: 0in;" class="">Timetable for implementation:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""> Immediate</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Comments from the community are welcome!</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><br class="">Christian S. Tacit</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">PPML<br class="">You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br class="">the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).<br class="">Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br class=""><a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br class="">Please contact<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; 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