<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I’ve been trying to leave group for a while, but I’ve been unsuccessful thus far, can someone assist?<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Regards<div><div dir="ltr"><div class="m_-3611192638002365058gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br><font style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">Chevaughn F.D Brown </font></span></div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 13pt;">Youth Member of Parliament </span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 13pt;">St Catherine West Central </span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 13pt;">National Youth Parliament Jamaica</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 13pt;"><br></span></div><div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Chairman| Old Harbour CDC Youth Council</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Parish Coordinator| National Youth Parliament Jamaica</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Public Relations Officer| Old Harbour CDC</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 13pt;"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 13pt;">Caribbean Youth Environment Network </span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 13pt;">Mobile: 1 876 472 9054</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 13pt;">Email: <a href="mailto:Chevybrown@live.com">Chevybrown@live.com</a> </span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 13pt;">IG: chevykil </span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 13pt;">SC: chevykil </span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 13pt;">Skype: chevybrown_2</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><b style="font-size: 13pt; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Disclaimer:</b></div></div><div><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></b></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">This email and any attachments are confidential, may be subject to the provisions of the Official Secrets Act and must not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the intended recipient. 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We do not accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses.</span></div><div style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-size: 1.3em;"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div></div></div><div><br>On Feb 3, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Job Snijders <<a href="mailto:job@ntt.net">job@ntt.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 10:17:02AM -0800, Scott Leibrand wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Feb 3, 2018, at 5:12 AM, <a href="mailto:hostmaster@uneedus.com">hostmaster@uneedus.com</a> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>1) A company is relocating its headquarters from a location served</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>by an RIR, to another location served by a different RIR, and wants</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>everything in their new home region.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>2) A company decides to buy another company with few assets, but</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>holds a 16 bit ASN in another RIR region. They then want to bring</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that ASN back to ARIN so they can add it to their registration plan.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This is similar to M&A of companies with IPv4 addresses as assets,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>since they can not get a 16 bit ASN directly from ARIN.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3) They have so much equipment scattered around the world with the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>old ASN, that they do not want to renumber just because their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>headquarters moved to a region served by a different RIR. If the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>region moved to is ARIN, in most cases they can save money by</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>putting the moved ASN on their registration plan with their address</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>space.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In any case, if ARIN allows transfers, it is highly unlikely that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that policy would ever be applied to anything other than a 16 bit</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>ASN as there are plenty of 32 bit ASN's available in all regions.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>All three scenarios apply equally to 16 and 32 bit ASNs. If it’s</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>easier for everyone involved to transfer an ASN between RIRs along</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>with any IPv4 resources, there’s no reason to renumber (which requires</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>cooperation from BGP peers). </span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>I'd like to emphasize that renumbering ASNs can be a very cumbersome and</span><br><span>expensive venture (be it a 16-bit or 32-bit ASN). There are notable</span><br><span>public examples of M&As where the integration and renumbering of related</span><br><span>ASNs took years.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Just because there is no shortage of 32-bit ASNs in another region</span><br><span>doesn't imply I'd be willing to absorb the cost of renumbering an ASN.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Kind regards,</span><br><span></span><br><span>Job</span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>PPML</span><br><span>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to</span><br><span>the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).</span><br><span>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a></span><br><span>Please contact <a href="mailto:info@arin.net">info@arin.net</a> if you experience any issues.</span></div></blockquote></body></html>