<div dir="ltr">This would be a new policy proposal. If you'd like to discuss it before deciding whether to formally propose something, I would recommend a new thread, as it's off-topic for this thread.<div><br></div><div>-Scott</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Andrew Bagrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:abagrin@omninet.io" target="_blank">abagrin@omninet.io</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_6699357787030233303WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">I’d also like to see a $100 monthly fee per IPv4 /24 currently assigned. </p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">I held onto a /16 at a previous company, just because it was cool but had no use for it. I checked recently and it is still assigned to the same company and not being used 15 years later.</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">By adding a $25k monthly fee, they would quickly return the block.</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Currently we have to pay brokers or sellers to acquire more IPv4 space. I would rather pay ARIN which could go to better funding the organization. </p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_6699357787030233303__MailEndCompose"> </a></p><span></span><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><b>From:</b> ARIN-PPML [mailto:<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml-bounces@<wbr>arin.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Austin Murkland<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 27, 2017 3:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> Andre Dalle <<a href="mailto:adalle@ncf.ca" target="_blank">adalle@ncf.ca</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> ARIN-PPML List <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br></span></p><div><div class="h5"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: Require New POC Validation Upon Reassignment</div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Also support this</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Andre Dalle <<a href="mailto:adalle@ncf.ca" target="_blank">adalle@ncf.ca</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><br>All my IPv4 space is reassigned, and I discovered last year that not all of it - from the same carrier - is properly associated with us.<br><br>Upstream created a POC for us (even though we were an existing customer with multiple reassignments), and it's been sluggish getting them to<br>sort it out. We have rDNS, so most abuse reporting still finds us, but some abuse mechanisms out there rely on POC info.<br><br>So I think this is necessary. +100 from here as well.<br><br>----<br>André Dalle<br>Systems Administrator<br>National Capital FreeNet [<a href="http://www.ncf.ca" target="_blank">http://www.ncf.ca</a>]</p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Joe Provo" <<a href="mailto:ppml@rsuc.gweep.net" target="_blank">ppml@rsuc.gweep.net</a>><br>To: "ARIN-PPML List" <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br>Sent: Wednesday, 22 November, 2017 11:01:59<br>Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: Require New POC Validation Upon Reassignment<br><br>On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 06:13:46PM -0500, David Huberman wrote:<br>> Thank you Scott. As the co-author, I very much recognize this<br>> proposal text is a ???first draft???. Working with my co-author<br>> Jason Schiller, and having solicited feedback from the AC, this<br>> proposal was submitted to solve the general problem. My hope was<br>> the mechanics would be looked at critically by the community during<br>> the PDP, and we would work together to improve them.<br><br>With my personal hat on I'm very happy to see this getting<br>to discussion. +100 for intent and I look forward to useful<br>language suggestions here.<br><br>--<br>Posted from my personal account - see X-Disclaimer header.<br>Joe Provo / Gweep / Earthling<br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>PPML<br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br>the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" target="_blank">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).<br>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br><a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml" target="_blank">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br>Please contact <a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank">info@arin.net</a> if you experience any issues.<br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>PPML<br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br>the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" target="_blank">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).<br>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br><a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml" target="_blank">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br>Please contact <a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank">info@arin.net</a> if you experience any issues.</p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div></div></div>
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