<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I am confused by your statement. Immediate need does not allow one to jump to the front of the queue, it merely provides an alternative means for justifying an initial allocation/assignment.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 27, 2017, at 12:42 , Roberts, Orin <<a href="mailto:oroberts@bell.ca" class="">oroberts@bell.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I also support this draft policy as written, no more jumping to the front of the queue. Go IPv6.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Orin Roberts<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN-PPML [<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Brian Jones<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>November-22-17 9:31 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">info@arin.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-10: Repeal of Immediate Need for IPv4 Address Space (NRPM Section 4.2.1.6)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">I support this draft policy as written. <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Brian Jones <o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On Tue, Nov 21, 2017, 17:42 ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">info@arin.net</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On 16 November 2017, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced<br class="">"ARIN-prop-245: Repeal of Immediate Need for IPv4 Address Space (NRPM<br class="">Section 4.2.1.6)" to Draft Policy status.<br class=""><br class="">Draft Policy ARIN-2017-10 is below and can be found at:<br class=""><a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_10.html" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_10.html</a><br class=""><br class="">You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will<br class="">evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft<br class="">policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as<br class="">stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these<br class="">principles are:<br class=""><br class="">* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration<br class="">* Technically Sound<br class="">* Supported by the Community<br class=""><br class="">The PDP can be found at:<br class=""><a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html</a><br class=""><br class="">Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:<br class=""><a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html</a><br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class="">Sean Hopkins<br class="">Policy Analyst<br class="">American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Draft Policy ARIN-2017-10: Repeal of Immediate Need for IPv4 Address<br class="">Space (NRPM Section 4.2.1.6)<br class=""><br class="">Problem Statement:<br class=""><br class="">Section 4.2.1.6 of the ARIN Numbering Resource Policy Manual (NRPM)<br class="">provides that an ISP having an immediate need for IPv4 address space<br class="">that will be utilized within thirty days of a request may obtain a block<br class="">of IPv4 address space of the size specified in section 4.2.1.6 from ARIN<br class="">on an exceptional basis. However, as noted in the ARIN 40 Policy<br class="">Experience Report, since IPv4 exhaustion, obtaining IPv4 addresses in<br class="">this manner is no longer possible as a practical matter. Instead an ISP<br class="">must join the waiting list and wait until it reaches the front of the<br class="">queue to obtain any IPv4 address space, however long that may take. In<br class="">effect, section 4.2.1.6 is non-operative. Accordingly, its continued<br class="">presence in the NRPM is misleading and confusing.<br class=""><br class="">Policy statement:<br class=""><br class="">Section 4.2.1.6 of the NRPM is hereby repealed and section number<br class="">4.2.1.6 is hereby retired.<br class=""><br class="">Comments:<br class=""><br class="">a. Timetable for implementation: Immediate<br class=""><br class="">b. Comments: Given the constraints created by the exhaustion of IPv4<br class="">addresses, this proposal does not require any changes in the current<br class="">ARIN practices for the allocation of IPv4 address space.<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">PPML<br class="">You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br class="">the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).<br class="">Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br class=""><a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br class="">Please contact<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">info@arin.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>if you experience any issues.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><span style="font-family: Monaco; 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