<div dir="ltr">FYI,<div><br></div><div>I submitted a proposal for verifying with re-assignment victims to see if they are an unwitting POC.</div><div><br></div><div>Seems there was already a proposal on the docket prop-247 <a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_247_orig.html" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/<wbr>policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_<wbr>247_orig.html</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>I did quickly check the proposals on the docket, and mis-read the status "Clarity and Understanding".</div><div>Incorrectly thinking this was just an ARIN AC "editorial update" so I didn't bother to check the text.</div><div><br></div><div>I am withdrawing my proposal, and have contacted the originator of prop-247 to include</div><div>a narrow corner case my proposal covered but prop-247 didn't.</div><div><br></div><div>___Jason</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Austin Murkland <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:austin.murkland@qscend.com" target="_blank">austin.murkland@qscend.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">i support this policy as written, and also agree with Jason that it doesn't address the issues he describes. I would also be in favor of a parallel policy proposal built upon this one which seeks to remedy this.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-Austin</div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Potter, Amy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:apotter@hilcoglobal.com" target="_blank">apotter@hilcoglobal.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
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UPDATE TO NPRM 3.6: Annual Whois POC Validation<u></u><u></u></p>
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Many of the Point of Contacts listed in ARIN’s public Whois database contain out-of-date and inaccurate contact information.
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<b>Policy Statement:<u></u><u></u></b></p>
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<u>Current Text</u>: <u></u><u></u></p>
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3.6 Annual Whois POC Validation<u></u><u></u></p>
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3.6.1 Method of Annual Verification<u></u><u></u></p>
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During ARIN's annual Whois POC validation, an email will be sent to every POC in the Whois database. Each POC will have a maximum of 60 days to respond with an affirmative that their Whois contact information is correct and complete. Unresponsive POC email
addresses shall be marked as such in the database. If ARIN staff deems a POC to be completely and permanently abandoned or otherwise illegitimate, the POC record shall be marked invalid. ARIN will maintain, and make readily available to the community, a current
list of number resources with no valid POC; this data will be subject to the current bulk Whois policy.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<u>Proposed Revised Text</u>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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3.6 Annual Validation of ARIN's Public Whois Point of Contact Data<u></u><u></u></p>
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3.6.1 Annual POC Verification <u></u><u></u></p>
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ARIN will perform an annual verification of specific Points of Contact registered in the public Whois using the criteria and procedures outlined in sections 3.6.2, 3.6.3, and 3.6.4.<u></u><u></u></p>
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3.6.2 Specified Public Whois Points of Contact for Verification<u></u><u></u></p>
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Each of the following Points of Contact are to be verified annually, and will be referred to as Point of Contact or POC throughout this policy, and should be understood to be both organization and resource POCs:<u></u><u></u></p>
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- Admin<br>
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3.6.3 Organizations Covered by this Policy<u></u><u></u></p>
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This policy applies to every Organization that has a direct assignment, direct allocation, or AS number from ARIN (or one of its predecessor registries) or a reallocation from an upstream ISP. This includes but is not limited to upstream ISPs and their downstream
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An annual email notification will be sent to each of the Points of Contact outlined in section 3.6.2 on an annual basis. Each Point of Contact will have up to sixty (60) days from the date of the notification in which to respond with an affirmative that their
Whois contact information is correct and complete or to submit new data to correct and complete it. If after careful analysis, ARIN staff deems a POC to be completely and permanently abandoned or otherwise illegitimate, the POC record shall be marked invalid
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Once a non-responsive POC has been marked invalid in the public Whois, any organization lacking a validated Admin or Tech POC will be unable to access the full suite of functionality within ARIN Online until the invalid POC(s) have either validated that their information
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