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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I support the policy as written.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In my opinion, there is a huge difference between should and shall.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If it does become an issue down the road, we can always change it later.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> ARIN-PPML [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net] <b>
On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Blumberg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>; Jason Schiller <jschiller@google.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> arin-ppml@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Improved IPv6 Registration Requirements<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span lang="EN-CA">I support the policy as written.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">If the stick isn’t big enough it appears a simple policy change could be used, not just for this section but all the other areas “should” is used.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">I would like to point out that “should” is currently used 30 times in the NRPM.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">In reading John’s explanation, I can’t see “should” and “shall” being considered an editorial change. To extend the policy cycle to another meeting would be far worse.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Out of curiosity, how often has ARIN had to deal with SWIP issues like this, where the other party ignored you?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Kevin Blumberg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> ARIN-PPML [<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Curran<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 27, 2017 5:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jason Schiller <<a href="mailto:jschiller@google.com">jschiller@google.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Improved IPv6 Registration Requirements<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">On 26 Sep 2017, at 3:18 PM, Jason Schiller <<a href="mailto:jschiller@google.com">jschiller@google.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I oppose as written.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">There should not be a different standard of requirement for:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">- re-allocation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">- reassignment containing a /47 or more addresses<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">- subdelegation of any size that will be individually announced<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">which is "shall"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">and Registration Requested by Recipient<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">which is "should"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I would support if they are both "shall".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Can ARIN staff discuss what actions it will take if an ISP's<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">down stream customer contacts them and explains that their<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">ISP refuses to SWIP their reassignment to them?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Will they do anything more than reach out to the ISP and tell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">them they "should" SWIP it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Jason - <br>
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If this policy change 2017-5 is adopted, then a provider that has IPv6 space from ARIN <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> but routinely fails to publish registration information (for /47 or larger reassignments) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> would be in violation, and ARIN would have clear policy language that would enable <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> us to discuss with the ISP the need to publish this information in a timely manner. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Service providers who blatantly ignore such a provision on an ongoing basis will be <br>
in the enviable position of hearing me chat with them about their obligations to follow <br>
ARIN number resource policy, including the consequences (i.e. potential revocation <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> of the IPv6 number resources.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> If the langauge for the new section 6.5.5.4 "Registration Requested by Recipient” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> reads “… the ISP should register that assignment”, then ARIN would send on any<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> received customer complaint to the ISP, and remind the ISP that they should<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> follow number resource policy in this regard but not otherwise taking any action. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> If the language for the new section 6.5.5.4 "Registration Requested by Recipient” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> reads “… the ISP shall register that assignment”, then failure to do so would be<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> a far more serious matter that, if left unaddressed on a chronic manner, could have <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> me discussing the customer complaints as a sign of potential failure to comply with <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> number resource policy, including the consequences (i.e. potential revocation of <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> the IPv6 number resources.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> I would note that the community should be very clear about its intentions for ISPs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> with regard to customer requested reassignment publication, given there is large <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> difference in obligations that result from policy language choice. ARIN staff remains, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> as always, looking forward to implementing whatever policy emerges from the <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"> consensus-based policy development process. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">/John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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