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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/20/2017 11:01 AM, Kevin Blumberg
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> I am opposed to the policy if it includes “or other
Information Technology services”. That would basically be any
defined organization that has a website.<br>
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Do you have a suggestion of what might be more appropriate
wording? We were trying to suggest that a community network might
provide more than basic connectivity. <br>
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On 9/20/2017 10:21 AM, Kevin Blumberg wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Andrew,
Is this the current text of the policy?
The text on 2017-8 on the website does not match. The text below includes " or other Information Technology services" which does not appear on the website (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_8.html">https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_8.html</a>)
Can you please confirm which is the correct version, I have written my repsonses based on the website.
1) Can a "Volunteer Group" sign the RSA? </pre>
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I'll let ARIN staff answer this part.<br>
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<pre wrap="">2) Is charitable organization a synonym or fall under the umbrella of non-profit?</pre>
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My understanding is that this was intended as a synonym, a list of
descriptors that could be used to define a community network.<br>
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<pre wrap="">3) Why is the scope limited to post-secondary institution when many smaller communities would not have that? Could accredited educational institution be used instead?</pre>
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The text has been updated to "educational institution"<span
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4) I agree with Chris W. that "play a large role" is very ambigous.</pre>
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Do you have a suggestion of text that might be more descriptive?
For example would a percentage of revenue / wages ratio be
applicable? That was an idea, but I'm not sure one could easily
come up with a ratio that works.<br>
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5) The last sentence should be reworded completely. Critical functions may be handled by paid staff, implies that volunteers shouldn't handle Critical functions or that paid staff shouldn't handle menial work?
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Should we substitute "Critical" with "Some"?<br>
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From: ARIN-PPML [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>] On Behalf Of Andrew Dul
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-8: Amend the Definition of Community Network
Hello all,
We will be discussing this draft proposal at the upcoming ARIN meeting in San Jose. If you have comments on the updated draft posted below, we'd certainly like to hear from you so we can help shape the conversation in person.
We have seen some support for this updated draft, but not a lot.
Furthermore, have we addressed all of your concerns which you might have noted earlier on the 1st version of the policy text.
Thanks,
Andrew
On 8/24/2017 8:22 AM, ARIN wrote:
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Draft Policy ARIN-2017-8: Amend the Definition of Community Network
Problem Statement:
The Community Networks section of the NRPM has not been used since
implementation in January 2010. Proposal ARIN-2016-7, to increase the
number of use cases, was abandoned by the Advisory Council due to lack
of feedback. Proposal ARIN 2017-2, to remove all mention of community
networks from NRPM was met with opposition by the community. Many
responded that the definition of “community network” was too narrow,
which could be the reason for lack of uptake.
Policy statement:
CURRENT NRPM TEXT:
“2.11. Community Network
A community network is any network organized and operated by a
volunteer group operating as or under the fiscal support of a
nonprofit organization or university for the purpose of providing free
or low-cost connectivity to the residents of their local service area.
To be treated as a community network under ARIN policy, the applicant
must certify to ARIN that the community network staff is 100%
volunteers.”
NEW NRPM TEXT:
“2.11 Community Network
A community network is a network organized and operated by a volunteer
group, not-for-profit, non-profit, charitable organization, or
educational institution for the purpose of providing free or low-cost
connectivity, or other Information Technology services to persons or
entities within their community. Critical functions may be handled by
paid staff, but volunteers play a large role in offering services
available through community networks.”
Comments:
Timetable for implementation: Immediate _
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