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<DIV>John,</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm in favor and opposed to the policy change being discussed. Simply
because, what will be implemented, will certainly not address my concerns.</DIV>
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<DIV>On <FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f5f5f5">July 21, 2017 8:23 AM</FONT>
</FONT>Andrew Bagrin wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>"I hope we’re not trying solve a security problem..." </DIV>
<DIV>"As soon as ARIN decides to do something for "security" and that
enforcement is "worked around", ARIN will be looked at as a failure."</DIV>
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<DIV>Andrew, do not worry. Your business will continue to sell security. I do
not intend to compete with your company. And certainly ARIN will never be your
competitor. As a rule I seek protection against your bad customers, if you has
some.</DIV>
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<DIV>Cheers</DIV>
<DIV>Marilson</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jcurran@arin.net
href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net">John Curran</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 21, 2017 8:23 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=marilson.mapa@gmail.com
href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com">Marilson</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=arin-ppml@arin.net
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of
Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV> Please indicate whether you are in favor or opposed to the
policy change</DIV>
<DIV> being discussed, including any supporting reasoning.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thank you,</DIV>
<DIV>/John</DIV>
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<DIV>John Curran</DIV>
<DIV>President and CEO</DIV>
<DIV>ARIN</DIV>
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<DIV>On 21 Jul 2017, at 12:45 AM, Marilson <<A
href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com">marilson.mapa@gmail.com</A>>
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<DIV>Gentlemen, let me introduce practical elements into this "difficult and
onerous" attitude, but ethical, on the tech and abuse contact requests.</DIV>
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<DIV>Let's see in practice how it works when organizations accept and disclose
absolutely false data, and when questioned, they simply lie or ignore it.</DIV>
<DIV>We have on one side a well-known and hated spammer, on the other an ISP who
insists on ignoring the denunciations, norms and laws, protecting and
maintaining the profits that this spammer provides. And above all an entity that
is self-titled as the regulator of good practice on the internet:</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=marilson.mapa@gmail.com
style='href: "mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com"'>Marilson</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:55 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=compliance@icann.org
style='href: "mailto:compliance@icann.org"'>compliance@icann.org</A> ; <A
title=complaints@icann.org
style='href: "mailto:complaints@icann.org"'>complaints@icann.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=crain@icann.org
style='href: "mailto:crain@icann.org"'>crain@icann.org</A> ; <A
title=tips@nytimes.com
style='href: "mailto:tips@nytimes.com"'>tips@nytimes.com</A> ; <A
title=spam@uce.gov style='href: "mailto:spam@uce.gov"'>spam@uce.gov</A> ; <A
title=privacy@council.bbb.org
style='href: "mailto:privacy@council.bbb.org"'>privacy@council.bbb.org</A> ; <A
title=iana@iana.org style='href: "mailto:iana@iana.org"'>iana@iana.org</A> ; <A
title=anonbrpt@anonymousbrasil.com
style='href: "mailto:anonbrpt@anonymousbrasil.com"'>anonbrpt@anonymousbrasil.com</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Fw: [#HTK-505-74506]: Whois Inaccuracy complaint re: <A
href="http://boasvendas.info">boasvendas.info</A> closed</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: "><FONT face=Calibri><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Lie!
The domain was not suspended and neither the Registrar or ISP suspended,
deleted, cancelled or even deactivated the domain name. The spammer continues
with their totally incorrect WHOIS data, making it impossible to take any
defensive action because he has the protection of his ISP, Registrar, RIR and
ICANN.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: "><FONT face=Calibri><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">What
makes me impressed is how all of you treat the complaints, as if we were all
morons.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: "><FONT face=Calibri><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Your
behavior is exactly like the behavior of most ISPs when receiving spam and scam
complaints. Greed and lack of ethics in protecting spammers and scammers, to
increase traffic on the internet, has no limits. You... (truncated). And you
survive because you have the protection of your governments that are, as a rule,
run by corrupt politicians.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: "><FONT face=Calibri><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks for nothing</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: "><FONT face=Calibri><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Marilson</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=compliance-tickets@icann.org
style='href: "mailto:compliance-tickets@icann.org"'>compliance-tickets@icann.org</A>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 17, 2017 11:43 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=marilson.mapa@gmail.com
style='href: "mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com"'>marilson.mapa@gmail.com</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [#HTK-505-74506]: Whois Inaccuracy complaint re: <A
href="http://boasvendas.info">boasvendas.info</A> closed</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="TEXT-DECORATION: ; FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ; DISPLAY: inline"><FONT
face=Calibri><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Dear Marilson,<BR><BR>Thank you for
submitting a Whois Inaccuracy complaint concerning the domain name <A
href="http://boasvendas.info">boasvendas.info</A>. ICANN has reviewed and closed
your complaint because:<BR><BR>- Based on the current Whois data, the domain was
suspended when the complaint was received by ICANN, or the registrar
demonstrated that it took reasonable steps to investigate the Whois inaccuracy
claim by suspending, deleting, cancelling or otherwise deactivating the domain
name.<BR><BR>ICANN considers this matter now closed.<BR><BR>Please do not reply
to the email. If you require future assistance, please email <A
href="mailto:compliance@icann.org">compliance@icann.org</A>; if you have a new
complaint, please submit it at <A
href="http://www.icann.org/resources/compliance/complaints">http://www.icann.org/resources/compliance/complaints</A>
.<BR><BR>ICANN is requesting your feedback on this closed complaint. Please
complete this optional survey at <A
href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8F2Z6DP?ticket=HTK-505-74506">https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8F2Z6DP?ticket=HTK-505-74506</A>
.<BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR><BR>ICANN Contractual
Compliance<BR><BR>############################################<BR><BR>The
problem summary:<BR><BR>Reporter Name: Marilson<BR>Reporter Email: <A
href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com">marilson.mapa@gmail.com</A><BR>Domain
being reported: <A href="http://boasvendas.info">boasvendas.info</A><BR><BR>Time
of submission/processing: Wed Jun 28 17:59:43 2017<BR><BR>Problem in whois
block: Expiration Date<BR>--- Error in date: Nothing to report<BR><BR>Problem in
whois block: Technical Contact<BR>--- Error in address: Incorrect address<BR>---
Error in phone number: Incorrect phone<BR>--- Error in name: Wrong person or
entity<BR>--- Error in email: Nothing to report<BR>--- Error in fax number: Fax
is missing<BR>--- Comment: He is a spammer and someone want to keep him hidden
from his victims.<BR><BR>Problem in whois block: Registrant Contact<BR>--- Error
in address: Incorrect address<BR>--- Error in name: Wrong person or
entity<BR>--- Comment: Registrant ID: C205479611-LRMS <BR>Registrant Name: BenL.
A. - FAKE – DOESNOT EXIST<BR>Registrant Organization: ???<BR>Registrant
Street: Estrada J. C. - FAKE – DOESNOT EXIST<BR>Registrant City: Curtume - FAKE
– DOESNOT EXIST<BR>Registrant State/Province: Sao Paulo <BR>Registrant Postal
Code: 18110000 - FAKE – DOESNOT EXIST<BR>Registrant Country: BR <BR>Registrant
Phone: +55.4333566600 - FAKE – DOESNOT EXIST<BR><BR>He is a spammer and someone
want to keep him hidden from his victims.<BR><BR>Problem in whois block:
Registration Date<BR>--- Error in date: Nothing to report<BR><BR>Problem in
whois block: Administrative Contact<BR>--- Error in address: Incorrect
address<BR>--- Error in phone number: Incorrect phone<BR>--- Error in name:
Wrong person or entity<BR>--- Error in email: Nothing to report<BR>--- Error in
fax number: Fax is missing<BR>--- Comment: <A
href="http://Boasvendas.info">Boasvendas.info</A> is a spammer and someone want
to keep him hidden from his victims.<BR><BR>The whois at the time of processing
is: <BR><BR>REGISTRY WHOIS:<BR><BR>Domain Name: BOASVENDAS.INFO<BR>Registry
Domain ID: D503300000040848348-LRMS<BR>Registrar WHOIS Server:<BR>Registrar URL:
<A
href="http://www.wildwestdomains.com">http://www.wildwestdomains.com</A><BR>Updated
Date: 2017-06-24T11:29:56Z<BR>Creation Date: 2017-06-19T21:44:52Z<BR>Registry
Expiry Date: 2018-06-19T21:44:52Z<BR>Registrar Registration Expiration
Date:<BR>Registrar: Wild West Domains, LLC<BR>Registrar IANA ID:
440<BR>Registrar Abuse Contact Email:<BR>Registrar Abuse Contact
Phone:<BR>Reseller:<BR>Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited<BR><A
href="https://icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited">https://icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited</A><BR>Domain
Status:
clientRenewProhibited<BR>https://icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited<BR>Domain
Status:
clientTransferProhibited<BR>https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited<BR>Domain
Status:
clientUpdateProhibited<BR>https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited<BR>Domain
Status:
serverTransferProhibited<BR>https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited<BR>Registry
Registrant ID: C205479611-LRMS<BR>Registrant Name: BenL. A.<BR>Registrant
Organization:<BR>Registrant Street: Estrada J. C.<BR>Registrant City:
Curtume<BR>Registrant State/Province: Sao Paulo<BR>Registrant Postal Code:
18110000<BR>Registrant Country: BR<BR>Registrant Phone:
+55.4333566600<BR>Registrant Phone Ext:<BR>Registrant Fax:<BR>Registrant Fax
Ext:<BR>Registrant Email: bouces1967@gmail.com<BR>Registry Admin ID:
C205479613-LRMS<BR>Admin Name: BenL. A.<BR>Admin Organization:<BR>Admin Street:
Estrada J. C.<BR>Admin City: Curtume<BR>Admin State/Province: Sao Paulo<BR>Admin
Postal Code: 18110000<BR>Admin Country: BR<BR>Admin Phone:
+55.4333566600<BR>Admin Phone Ext:<BR>Admin Fax:<BR>Admin Fax Ext:<BR>Admin
Email: bouces1967@gmail.com<BR>Registry Tech ID: C205479612-LRMS<BR>Tech Name:
BenL. A.<BR>Tech Organization:<BR>Tech Street: Estrada J. C.<BR>Tech City:
Curtume<BR>Tech State/Province: Sao Paulo<BR>Tech Postal Code: 18110000<BR>Tech
Country: BR<BR>Tech Phone: +55.4333566600<BR>Tech Phone Ext:<BR>Tech
Fax:<BR>Tech Fax Ext:<BR>Tech Email: bouces1967@gmail.com<BR>Registry Billing
ID: C205479614-LRMS<BR>Billing Name: BenL. A.<BR>Billing
Organization:<BR>Billing Street: Estrada J. C.<BR>Billing City:
Curtume<BR>Billing State/Province: Sao Paulo<BR>Billing Postal Code:
18110000<BR>Billing Country: BR<BR>Billing Phone: +55.4333566600<BR>Billing
Phone Ext:<BR>Billing Fax:<BR>Billing Fax Ext:<BR>Billing Email:
bouces1967@gmail.com<BR>Name Server: NS1.BOASVENDAS.INFO<BR>Name Server:
NS2.BOASVENDAS.INFO<BR>DNSSEC: unsigned<BR>URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy
Complaint Form:<BR>https://www.icann.org/wicf/<BR>>>> Last update of
WHOIS database: 2017-06-28T17:59:03Z <<<<BR><BR>For more information on
Whois status codes, please visit<BR><A
href="https://icann.org/epp">https://icann.org/epp</A></FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=owen@delong.com href="mailto:owen@delong.com">Owen
DeLong</A> </DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 20, 2017 5:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=Pallieter@pallieter.org
href="mailto:Pallieter@pallieter.org">Pallieter Koopmans</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=arin-ppml@arin.net
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of
Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">How
can it be overly difficult to fill out an email template with your
customers’<BR>Name, Address, Phone
Number?<BR><BR>Really?<BR><BR>Owen<BR><BR>> On Jul 19, 2017, at 23:48 ,
Pallieter Koopmans <<A
href="mailto:Pallieter@pallieter.org">Pallieter@pallieter.org</A>>
wrote:<BR>> <BR>> Hello,<BR>> <BR>> ARIN could quantify and require
rules for when to SWIP, but in the<BR>> end, there are going to be exceptions
needed if the rules are to be<BR>> strictly followed. Many will not
separately SWIP a separately routed<BR>> sub-block if it is too difficult or
pointless to gather and share that<BR>> data back upstream to ARIN.<BR>>
<BR>> Thus a more fuzzy rule to require a best-effort and to add a<BR>>
rule-based reason (preferably both a carrot and a stick) for block<BR>>
owners to do their best to provide (only) useful data. In order to do<BR>>
that, one needs to look back at why that data is needed. For a block<BR>>
owner to assign the SWIP on a sub-block, he basically delegates tech<BR>> and
abuse contact requests down to those that are probably more likely<BR>> to be
able to actually act on the tech/abuse requests (and thus reduce<BR>>
request-handling workload higher up and overall). But for that to<BR>> work,
those tech/abuse contact requests need to be actually handled,<BR>>
otherwise, it is better to leave them with the block owner.<BR>> <BR>> In
the end, the contact details should be as close to the "person"<BR>> that is
actually capable to both handle (think: volume/languages/etc)<BR>> and act
(think: authority) on the tech/abuse requests.<BR>> <BR>> eBrain<BR>>
Innovative Internet Ideas<BR>> <BR>> Pallieter Koopmans<BR>> Managing
Director<BR>> <BR>> +31-6-3400-3800 (mon-sat 9-22 CET)<BR>> Skype:
PallieterKoopmans<BR>>
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