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Leif<br>
While not a committee member, this is tolerable and workable.<br>
We can assign a /48 to every tower (POP) and that will geo locate<br>
good enough for the rural area. Geo location by address doesn't<br>
work that well in our rural area anyhow. Can be miles off. But<br>
using tower location will get it into less than 10 mile geo
location.<br>
One comment is that most providers that I have dealt with are very<br>
reluctant to swip anything less than an IPv4 /24. This no longer
affects<br>
me because these providers are in the process of reclaiming their IP<br>
space when we shifted to fiber. One was nice and one wasn't, but we<br>
basically had to shift all customers to NAT since we didn't make it
in time<br>
to get our own IPv4 allocation. Getting an IPv6 allocation is
waiting on our fiber <br>
provider providing dual stack and the issues you are some what
addressing <br>
in this current policy making.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Paul McNary<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pmcnary@cameron.net">pmcnary@cameron.net</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/21/2017 11:44 AM, Leif Sawyer
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">Happy
Friday, everybody.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">As
promised, here is the latest rewrite of the draft policy
below, and it will soon be updated at:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_5.html">https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_5.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">There
are two changes noted in the policy statement: the first of
which reflects what seems to be the current<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">consensus
of the PPML regarding netblock sizing; the second is to
strike language that may be read as either restrictive<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">or
non-operational.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">----<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">Problem
Statement:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">
Current ARIN policy has different WHOIS directory
registration requirements for IPv4 vs IPv6 address
assignments.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"> IPv4
registration is triggered for an assignment of any address
block equal to or greater than a /29 (i.e., eight IPv4
addresses).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">
In the case of IPv6, registration occurs for an assignment
of any block equal to or greater than a /64, which
constitutes one entire IPv6 subnet and is the minimum block
size for an allocation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">
Accordingly, there is a significant disparity between IPv4
and IPv6 WHOIS registration thresholds in the case of
assignments, resulting in more work in the case of IPv6 than
is the case for IPv4.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">
There is no technical or policy rationale for the disparity,
which could serve as a deterrent to more rapid IPv6
adoption.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">
The purpose of this proposal is to eliminate the disparity
and corresponding adverse consequences.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">Policy
statement:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">
1) Alter section 6.5.5.1 "Reassignment information" of the
NRPM to strike "/64 or more addresses" and change to "/47 or
more addresses, or sub-delegation of any size that will be
individually announced,"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">and
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"> 2)
Alter section 6.5.5.3.1. "Residential Customer Privacy" of
the NRPM by deleting the phrase "holding /64 and larger
blocks"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">Comments:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">a.
Timetable for implementation:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">
Policy should be adopted as soon as possible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">b.
Anything else:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"> Author
Comments:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">
IPv6 should not be more burdensome than the equivalent IPv4
network size.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">
Currently, assignments of /29 or more of IPv4 space (8
addresses) require registration<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">
The greatest majority of ISP customers who have assignments
of IPv4 space are of a single IPv4 address which do not
trigger any ARIN registration requirement when using IPv4.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">
This is NOT true when these same exact customers use IPv6,
as assignments of /64 or more of IPv6 space require
registration.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"> Beginning
with RFC 3177, it has been standard practice to assign a
minimum assignment of /64 to every customer end user site,
and less is never used.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"> This
means that ALL IPv6 assignments, including those customers
that only use a single IPv4 address must be registered with
ARIN if they are given the minimum assignment of /64 of IPv6
space. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"> This
additional effort may prevent ISP's from giving IPv6
addresses because of the additional expense of registering
those addresses with ARIN, which is not required for IPv4.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">
The administrative burden of 100% customer registration of
IPv6 customers is unreasonable, when such is not required
for those customers receiving only IPv4 connections.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">---<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">Leif
Sawyer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366">Advisory
Council<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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