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<p>Owen <br>
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<p>I agree 100% with your statement below!<br>
Longer than a /48. That would eliminate any <br>
concerns I have. /48's could be assigned to each POP<br>
giving basic location information for any downstream.<br>
That is similar to BCP of a /24 for IPv4. If a downstream<br>
business request SWIP that we can accommodate. <br>
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<p>Take care<br>
Paul<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/20/2017 3:06 PM, Owen DeLong
wrote:<br>
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This makes the best case I can imagine for why setting the
boundary at /56 is a bad idea and we should not be considering
anything longer than /48.
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<div class="">Owen</div>
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<div class="">On Jul 17, 2017, at 15:40 , Paul McNary <<a
href="mailto:pmcnary@cameron.net" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">pmcnary@cameron.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<p style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px;
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background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Leif<br
class="">
If I understand your question:</p>
<p style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px;
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auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Originally
/48 to anyone was the BCP for future efficiency.<br
class="">
I can change my BCP to /56.<br class="">
/48 is my preference, however, which is the BGP
boundary.<br class="">
Otherwise I have little issue with choice "b" if forced.</p>
<p style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">I would
prefer to give my residential users a /48 for the future
but a /56<br class="">
could work, just a pain. Again rDNS could be a problem.<br
class="">
</p>
<p style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Do AS's
use ARIN reverse DNS for size smaller than /48?<br
class="">
If rDNS will not work worldwide except with /48
advertising,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
I think that should be the SWIP boundary.<br class="">
I know for a while some AS's required /32.<br class="">
I think that has finally changed.<br class="">
However ARIN's assignment web page indicates we should
be<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
SWIP'ing /29's on IPv4 by policy or risk ARIN action.<br
class="">
</p>
<p style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px;
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Thank
you<br class="">
Paul McNary<br class="">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:pmcnary@cameron.net" style="color:
purple; text-decoration: underline;"
moz-do-not-send="true">pmcnary@cameron.net</a><br
class="">
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background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On 7/17/2017 5:09
PM, Leif Sawyer wrote:<br class="">
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cite="mid:EDF941B230F4C446826CF893A9C8CE59016D79F574@ex-mbx-prd02.gci.com"
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Shepherd
of the draft policy chiming in.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanks
for the lively discussion, everybody. There's
certainly a lot to think about here.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Just
as a reminder to folk, the current policy under
question is located here:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><a
href="https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#six551"
moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#six551</a><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">And,
to help clarify some confusion, per 6.5.5.3.1 (<a
href="https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#six5531"
moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#six5531</a>)<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">residential
customers "holding/64 and larger blocks" may use
censored data, i.e. "Private Customer/Residence"<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">in
lieu of actual names and street addresses.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">--<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">With
that said, I have a couple of questions to ask,
based on potential rewrites that are brewing.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">First:
Assuming a preference for /56 (based on PPML
feedback) for the moment, which is the more<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">preferential
rewrite of the opening sentence of 6.5.5.1?<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;
text-indent: -0.25in;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span
class="">a)<span style="font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight:
normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;
font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Each
static IPv6 assignment containing a /55 or more
addresses shall be registered in the WHOIS
directory via SWIP or a distributed service which
meets the standards set forth in section 3.2.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;
text-indent: -0.25in;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span
class="">b)<span style="font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight:
normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;
font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Each
static IPv6 assignment containing a /55 or more
addresses,</span><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">or
subdelegation of any size that will be
individually announced, shall be registered in the
WHOIS directory via SWIP or a distributed service
which meets the standards set forth in section
3.2.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Second:
Given your specific choice of A or B, are you
preferentially inclined to choose the provided
bit-boundary, or "/48"<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Third:
If none of these options are palatable, do you
have a proposed approach?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanks,<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Leif
Sawyer<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Advisory
Council<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p
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