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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To avoid the situation of Owen being a lone voice, I have to echo his point that it is insane that people persist with IPv4-think and extreme conservation. Allocations longer than a /48 to a residence ensure that automated topology configuration can’t happen, because /52’s won’t happen and /56’s are too long for random consumer plug-n-play. Therefore a policy that /48’s must be swiped ensures that we maintain single subnet consumer networks. A policy that says /48’s might be swiped (will in a business and not in a non-residential case) does not reinforce the braindead notion that longer than /48 has some special meaning beyond the need to kill off a generation of those with the ‘addresses are a scarce resource’ mindset. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tony<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></a></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ARIN-PPML [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>William Herrin<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 13, 2017 3:12 PM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Owen DeLong<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> arin-ppml@arin.net<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Consensus hasn’t yet been reached. I agree that there is significant support for “shorter than /56” actually (not /56 itself). Nonetheless, I don’t believe that shorter than /56 is the ideal place to put the boundary.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi Owen,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I think you're an outlier here. I see consensus that /48 should be swiped and /56 should not. If there's debate that /52 or /49 should also not be swiped or that a some more subtle criteria should determine what's swiped, it's not exactly chewing up bandwidth on the mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Bill Herrin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>William Herrin ................ <a href="mailto:herrin@dirtside.com" target="_blank">herrin@dirtside.com</a> <a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank">bill@herrin.us</a><br>Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <<a href="http://www.dirtside.com/" target="_blank">http://www.dirtside.com/</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>