<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Bill,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That’s not particularly relevant as LIRs are not at issue in the policy proposal.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It speaks only to RIRs (i.e. AfriNIC, APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC, RIPE-NCC) and NIRs (e.g. JPNIC, CNNIC, KRNIC, …).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 20, 2017, at 10:33 PM, William Herrin <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" class="">bill@herrin.us</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 1:37 PM, ARIN <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank" class="">info@arin.net</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ Recipient RIR policy must not permit transfers to other RIRs or NIRs whose policies do not support bi-directional transfers.<br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hello,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I support this policy in concept but I'm forced to note that almost without exception, ARIN LIRs do not support bi-directional transfers. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Since a handful of LIRs have started leasing addresses absent any network services (ARIN treats ISP and LIR as the same thing) and a handful of NIRs also control their local network services, it seems to me like we might get in to some definitional trouble here.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class="">Bill Herrin</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>-- <br class=""><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">William Herrin ................ <a href="mailto:herrin@dirtside.com" target="_blank" class="">herrin@dirtside.com</a> <a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank" class="">bill@herrin.us</a><br class="">Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <<a href="http://www.dirtside.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.dirtside.com/</a>></div>
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