<div dir="ltr">John,<div><br></div><div>Maybe I was not clear. Assuming you spend far more time reading each and every policy proposal that I do; and your position within ARIN:</div><div><br></div><div>Specifically from >>your<< point of view; do you see the SWIP policy currently in place to lean more to abuse management, or allocation justification.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="text-align:left"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span></span></p><span><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span><div dir="ltr"><font face="verdana,sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#444444"><b>Chris James<br></b></font></font></div><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:8.25pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><br></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:8.25pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><img alt="Datacate" src="https://www.datacate.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/logo.png" width="150" height="26"><font size="1"> </font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:8.25pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><font color="#3d85c6"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><font size="1"><br></font></font></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:8.25pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><font color="#3d85c6"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><font size="1">t. </font><font size="1" color="#444444">916-526-0737 ext 1002</font></font></font><br></p></div></span><span><div><font color="#3d85c6"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><font size="1" color="#444444"><font color="#3d85c6">e. </font><a href="mailto:chris@datacate.com" target="_blank">chris@datacate.com</a><br></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#3d85c6"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><font size="1" color="#444444"><font color="#3d85c6">a. </font>2999 Gold Canal Dr., Rancho Cordova, CA 95670<br></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#3d85c6"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><font size="1" color="#444444"><font color="#3d85c6">w. <font color="#444444"><a href="https://www.datacate.net" target="_blank">https://www.datacate.net</a></font></font><br></font></font></font></div></span><div style="text-align:left"><span><div><font size="1" color="#3d85c6"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><font color="#444444"><b><font color="#3d85c6">__________________________________________</font></b></font></font></font></div></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 6:04 AM, John Curran <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" target="_blank">jcurran@arin.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 2 Jun 2017, at 4:14 AM, Chris James <<a href="mailto:chris@datacate.com">chris@datacate.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Difficult to disagree w/Martin's logic. If we use SWIP to determine eligibility for additional resources in the current environment; SWIP is pointless thus the policy is a waste of time to all involved and this whole back and forth is tiresome.<br>
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> If we wish to use SWIP as a means to manage abuse issues, then more stringent guidelines are needed. I am not saying we need to penalize, but at least standards. I agree with the /56 idea.<br>
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> John Curran (ARIN) Please advise ARIN's point of view. If you had to choose 1 and only 1; is SWIP for Abuse or Allocation?<br>
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Chris -<br>
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I had to chuckle a bit at your question…. ARIN is _your_ Regional Internet Registry.<br>
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This means that you (the collective community) specify what we are to do, and then we do it –<br>
not the other way around. While I have personally been involved with several nationwide ISPs<br>
and have run a secure hosting company, my particular views must be subsumed into the ARIN<br>
community’s determination on such matters.<br>
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(The status quo will be maintained until the community (or Board) provides direction on updated<br>
policy direction.)<br>
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Thanks!<br>
/John<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
John Curran<br>
President and CEO<br>
ARIN<br>
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