<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>The policy shepherds have seen limited support for this draft and noted this at its last full AC meeting. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Furthermore, we believe that through the discussion of this draft this policy change may not be necessary as ARIN's operational practice already permits organizations to use a data based projection from previous allocations or assignments as documentation for a transfer. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">If you believe the AC should continue to work on this draft, please post a statement of support and suggestions of text updates (e.g. Draft text which would explicitly state the current operational practice in policy) which you believe will garner additional support from the community for this draft. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">In the absence of additional support and/or discussion of this draft the shepherds of the policy intended to abandon this draft at their next regular AC meeting.<br><br>Andrew</div><div><br>On May 9, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Jason Schiller <<a href="mailto:jschiller@google.com">jschiller@google.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">John,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for the statement. This makes me feel much more comfortable.</div><div><br></div><div>I wish such text was clearly spelled out in the policy </div><div>(as I think that is good for the community), but I will happily </div><div>take such text as part of the unwritten rules of the NRPM.</div><div><br></div><div>Would you say the policy proposal as written is an operation non-op </div><div>for ARIN staff?</div><div><br></div><div>___Jason</div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 5:56 PM, John Curran <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" target="_blank">jcurran@arin.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 8 May 2017, at 12:42 PM, Jason Schiller <<a href="mailto:jschiller@google.com">jschiller@google.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> John,<br>
><br>
> In a word no.<br>
><br>
> One could imagine a justification that says something like:<br>
> - on 12/05 we got a /16<br>
> -- (assume we demonstrated efficient utilization of currently<br>
> held space at this time)<br>
> - on 05/05 we demonstrated efficient use of the this space<br>
> -- (assume efficient utilization of the new /16 is justifiable)<br>
> -- (assume efficient utilization of previous held space is justifiable)<br>
> - at current consumption rate, a /14 represents a two year supply<br>
> - we anticipate that our product will continue growing for the for see-able future<br>
><br>
> Can we have a /14 please?<br>
> ---<br>
><br>
> Technically the request above makes no prediction about the future.<br>
<br>
</span>Jason -<br>
<br>
Regardless of whether you call it a prediction or not, your extension of your consumption rate<br>
to establish your 'two year supply’ meets NRPM 8.5.5’s requirement for “documentation to<br>
ARIN which details the use of at least 50% of the requested IPv4 block size within 24 months.”<br>
<br>
This aligns with the clear policy intent of transfer policy as adopted by the community; so long<br>
as an officer of the organization attests to the documentation, such requests will be approved.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
Thanks,<br>
/John<br>
<br>
John Curran<br>
President and CEO<br>
ARIN<br>
<br>
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