<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Unsubscribe me from the emailing list please !!<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jun 6, 2017, at 12:32 PM, John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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On 5 Jun 2017, at 10:03 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" class="">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">Also, it is worth noting that nothing prevents you from hosting such a<br class="">
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<div>Therein lies the rub - note that I did not reply to your earlier assertion that:</div>
<div>“ARIN would have blanket and absolute protection from legal liability for anything </div>
<div>that anyone outside of ARIN might post to any such hypothetical blog, under the </div>
<div>unambiguous and courtroom-tested provisions of 47 USC 230(c)(1).”, as I try to </div>
<div>avoid unnecessary legal debates on the public policy mailing list… </div>
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<div>However, your assertion is incorrect, due to the very reason you state above –</div>
<div>ARIN would be directly hosting and facilitating peoples access to the site and </div>
<div>thus would find it difficult to assert lack of awareness of the consequences of </div>
<div>its use. As a trade association, ARIN must take particular care in what activities</div>
<div>it facilities, and furthermore it is important to realize that some aspects of CDA 230</div>
<div>liability protection has been successfully challenged in recent court cases and</div>
<div>thus it should not be considered the immutable and unambiguous shield that you </div>
<div>claim it to be... (Note that I touched upon these same developments in my </div>
<div>recent February 2017 NANOG 69 presentation on US government matters - </div>
<div><<a href="https://www.nanog.org/meetings/abstract?id=3061" class="">https://www.nanog.org/meetings/abstract?id=3061</a>>)</div>
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<div>If you believe that such a forum would be valuable, you are free to host it and </div>
<div>the network operator community is likely to make use of it to the extent that it</div>
<div>proves beneficial to their activities. </div>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
<div>/John</div>
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