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<p>I think the SWIP requirement should be the same as what is
routable internet wide.<br>
/24 for IPV4 and whatever for IPV6. Anything less is the /24
holder's problem to deal with.<br>
If it is public routable then require SWIP otherwise let the
routable holder manage it.<br>
Blacklists deal with it that way. Every had a /25 that the other
associated /25 had spammers on it?<br>
Lots of fun! :-)<br>
Now if the blacklist characters would work with the smaller IP
ranges that would be great, but will they?<br>
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<p>Paul McNary<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pmcnary@cameron.net">pmcnary@cameron.net</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/6/2017 3:10 PM, Roberts, Orin
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
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we require SWIP for IPv4 /24s”</span></i><i><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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also currently requires a SWIP for an IPv4 /29 , which makes
“/60" a more applicable reference point; unless the intent
is to minimize or eliminate SWIPs for IPv6 (ISPs won’t
mind).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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ARIN-PPML [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>William Herrin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> June-06-17 3:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Leif Sawyer<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5:
Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements
between IPv4 and IPv6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Leif
Sawyer <<a href="mailto:lsawyer@gci.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">lsawyer@gci.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The boundaries at /60, /56, and
/48 have all been discussed. If one is more
favorable than<br>
the other, and you would like to see the proposal
edited to use that one, we will certainly<br>
take that under advisory.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Leif,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">IMHO, IPv6 /48 = IPv4 /24. Since we
require SWIP for IPv4 /24s, we should require it for
IPv6 /48s.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'd be comfortable with "more than
a /56" and "more than a /60." I prefer "more than a
/56." <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would oppose "/60 or more" or
"/56 or more" because I believe that would encourage
ISPs to engage in unhealthy assignment practices to
avoid SWIP reporting, such as assigning /64s, /61s and
/57s.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bill Herrin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">William Herrin ................ <a
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herrin@dirtside.com</a> <a
href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bill@herrin.us</a><br>
Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <<a
href="http://www.dirtside.com/" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.dirtside.com/</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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