<div dir="ltr">Peter<div><br></div><div>The draft is still on the AC's docket and the shepherds are working on it. I think it should be part of this discussion so I mentioned it so that folks could take a look.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>-----Cathy</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">{Ô,Ô}</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"> (( ))</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"> ◊ ◊</font></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Peter Thimmesch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peter.thimmesch@addrex.net" target="_blank">peter.thimmesch@addrex.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Yes, the was some rather heated discussion at the ARIN meeting in New Orleans about the proposed wording in 3.6.7 <span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Non-Responsive Point of Contact Records. I believe, please correct me if you think
otherwise, that the consensus of opinions that spoke at the meeting were strongly against the removing of records from public Whois. Therefore pointing someone to consider this type of punitive action would be seemingly designed to do what? </span></div>
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<div>What problem is trying to be solved with this proposed policy? Is it to align the two existing policies or to create a punitive measure? </div>
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On May 26, 2017, at 19:09, Cj Aronson <<a href="mailto:cja@daydream.com" target="_blank">cja@daydream.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span class="m_-9137117272529842908gmail-">On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette
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In message <<a href="mailto:8A3A301D-39B5-4F81-8E2C-90E23B81919E@panix.com" target="_blank">8A3A301D-39B5-4F81-8E2C-90E23<wbr>B81919E@panix.com</a>>,<br>
<span>David Huberman <<a href="mailto:daveid@panix.com" target="_blank">daveid@panix.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>In short, there is an argument that the SWIP rules are no-op now. So to answer<br>
>your question directly; what do you do? Nothing. Those days are long gone<br>
>and ARIN has other focuses now.<br>
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ARIN doesn't, can't, and most probably won't either enforce the existing<br>
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drafted and/or promulgated with respect to IPv6. Is that about the size<br>
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<div>Pretty much, unless someone comes up with a new method of enforcing SWIP rules. Some of the discussions with law enforcement could eventually result in such carrots or sticks, but no one has proposed any specifics yet.</div>
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<div>There is this draft policy that has a few "sticks" at least for delegations to downstream ISPs.</div>
<div><a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_3.html" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/policy/<wbr>proposals/2017_3.html</a> </div>
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