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<DIV>Cathy, I know that this has nothing to do with the list. Has to do with me.
It is clear now that my messages reaches all the members. Due to your concern
you deserve explanations and thanks. You, as a photographer you are, use your
eyes, your emotion, and then your finger. I first use the finger, straight into
the wound.</DIV>
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<DIV>Chris, ARIN dealt with it correctly, they just did not know where the
problem was. Probably due to my lousy English, I think.</DIV>
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<DIV>My reasons:</DIV>
<DIV>I am not a ISP owner. I am not a IT Professional, I am just a citizen,
Urban Architect, worry about spam and scam. And I am talking about 420 billion
of spam and scam PER DAY. I will always be intolerant of any action or policy
that benefits spammers or increase the spam traffic on the Internet.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'll tell you what would happen if I stayed on that list.</DIV>
<DIV>Soon, some ISP owners would ask for my banishment, others would call me
troll. If anyone here is a member of RIPE anti-abuse-wg it would certainly
confirm it.</DIV>
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<DIV>Not that I'm worried about what some greedy sociopath will say. It turns
out that when this happening I will get a bit paranoid and I will ask myself if
my messages are being censored. If I do not receive my messages via ARIN-ppml
due to Gmail, how will I know? Switching email is out of the question. It is my
brand, my id.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If it is for the good of all and the general happiness of the ARIN Nation,
tell the people that I am out.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for your concern,</DIV>
<DIV>Marilson</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=chris@datacate.com
href="mailto:chris@datacate.com">Chris James</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:03 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=marilson.mapa@gmail.com
href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com">Marilson</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=arin-ppml@arin.net
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arin-ppml] Interesting policy proposal in
AFRINIC</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>I think from a technical perspective ARIN did handle this entirely
correct. They took your concern and used standard methods to ensure proper
delivery. The behavior you are unhappy with is a result of google's attempt to
oversimplify the end user's life. Perhaps submit a feature request to gmail and
ask that functionality be optional? (link below)
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<DIV>The only affect is would have on you would be not seeing your original
email in your inbox, it is still in your sent "folder". Not sure how that
affects subscription to the list, or common reasons to be involved?</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_extra>Gmail - Request a feature: <A
href="https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/V_U7zBUZ8G4;context-place=forum/gmail">https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/V_U7zBUZ8G4;context-place=forum/gmail</A><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Marilson <SPAN
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<DIV>Dear Robert, Cathy, Chris and Michael,</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks for clarifying the Gmail vs mailing lists problem.</DIV>
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<DIV>I hope ARIN's staff has learned and now they know how to explain it at
another opportunity.</DIV>
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<DIV>Since there is no way to change this behavior I am out of this
list.</DIV>
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<DIV>Greetings to all and good work.</DIV><SPAN class=gmail-HOEnZb><FONT
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