<HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns:mv =
"http://macVmlSchemaUri"><HEAD>
<META content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META name=Title content="">
<META name=Keywords content="">
<META name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)">
<STYLE>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</STYLE>
<STYLE><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
span.EmailStyle19
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:Calibri;
color:windowtext;}
span.msoIns
{mso-style-type:export-only;
mso-style-name:"";
text-decoration:underline;
color:teal;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY lang=EN-US dir=ltr link=blue bgColor=white vLink=purple>
<DIV dir=ltr>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">
<DIV>Susan,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>At the moment there are 7 messages sent by list members in my inbox <FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt">(</FONT>by Brett, Scott, Jason, Kirubel and Josh<FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt">)</FONT>. All are copied to <A
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A> and I received
them.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If my <EM>messages were posted to ppml for all on the list to see,</EM> as
you wrote, why did not I receive in my mail if all the messages posted by the
members I receive?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My two messages were sent with copy to <A
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A> and, as a member of the
list, I did not receive them in my mail inbox.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'm not referring to messages sent to <A
href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com">marilson.mapa@gmail.com</A>. I'm referring
to the messages I've created that should be sent to members via <A
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A>.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am a member of RIPE's anti-abuse-wg. When I send a message to group
members, via <A href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A>,
the <A
href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg-request@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg-request@ripe.net</A>
resends messages to <A
href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A> and all Members
receive the message including the author of the message.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In ARIN, if my messages were being posted to members it would be via <A
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A> and I would be receiving
my message as well. Since I do not get the messages I send, it's because they
are not being posted.</DIV>
<DIV>Being archived, means nothing. If I am persona non grata, you must have the
decency to warn, so I will not waste time. Staying in or out of your list to me
is absolutely indifferent, just do not waste my time.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'll ask you again: Why are not my messages being posted to list
members?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks</DIV>
<DIV>Marilson</DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt tahoma">
<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=susanh@arin.net
href="mailto:susanh@arin.net">Susan Hamlin</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 19, 2017 9:19 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=marilson.mapa@gmail.com
href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com">marilson.mapa@gmail.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=wendy@arin.net href="mailto:wendy@arin.net">Wendy
Leedy</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> FW: [arin-ppml] Interesting policy proposal in
AFRINIC</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV class=WordSection1>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Hello
Marilson,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">I asked
our Operations staff to look into our email log to see if they could find any
issues.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">According
to our logs, “we sent marilson.mapa@gmail.com copies of the messages he/she
sent. The Gmail servers accepted the messages from us. What Gmail did with it
after that is beyond our ability to see.”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">I am
subscribed to ppml and did receive your email. Your messages were posted to ppml
for all on the list to see and they also appear in the archives, meaning that
they were received on the list so that all subscribers saw
them.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri"><BR>At
this point I don’t think there is anything else we can do on our end. Perhaps it
is worth checking on your end to see if the message back to you was hung up in
some manner.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Susan<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Susan
Hamlin<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Director,
Communications and Member Services<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">American Registry
for Internet Numbers (ARIN)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Office –
1.703.227.9851<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Mobile –
1.703.930.6094<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">www.arin.net<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>-------- Forwarded Message -------- <o:p></o:p></P>
<TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="COLOR: #000000" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0
border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in"
vAlign=top noWrap>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><B>Subject:
<o:p></o:p></B></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
<P class=MsoNormal>Re: [arin-ppml] Interesting policy proposal in
AFRINIC<o:p></o:p></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in"
vAlign=top noWrap>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><B>Date:
<o:p></o:p></B></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
<P class=MsoNormal>Mon, 17 Apr 2017 18:18:01 -0300<o:p></o:p></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in"
vAlign=top noWrap>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><B>From:
<o:p></o:p></B></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
<P class=MsoNormal>Marilson <A
href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com">mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com</A><o:p></o:p></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in"
vAlign=top noWrap>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><B>Reply-To:
<o:p></o:p></B></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
<P class=MsoNormal>Marilson <A
href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com">mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com</A><o:p></o:p></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in"
vAlign=top noWrap>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><B>To:
<o:p></o:p></B></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
<P class=MsoNormal>ARIN <A
href="mailto:info@arin.net">mailto:info@arin.net</A><o:p></o:p></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><o:p></o:p> </P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Are you
kidding?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">You dont
answer my question: </SPAN><EM><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: #9b00d3">Why are not my comments being
posted to arin-ppml? I don't receive what I send for
arin-ppml</SPAN></B></EM><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">I am not
writing to files. I'm writing to list members.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">I did not
know there were censors in this organization. My condolences! But I confess I'm
not surprised. I would be surprised if there were no
sensors.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">I mean, if I
put a topic for discussion or ask a question, it goes to the file, and the idiot
here stay waiting for comments that will never come? Is that it? There is a
censor who decides what can be discussed in this
list?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Have at
least the decency to give an honest answer so I do not waste any more
time.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Marilson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"> <A
title=info@arin.net href="mailto:info@arin.net">ARIN</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"> Monday, April 17,
2017 2:33 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"> <A
title=marilson.mapa@gmail.com href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com">Marilson</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; COLOR: black"> Re: Fw: [arin-ppml]
Interesting policy proposal in AFRINIC<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Dear Marilson, <BR><BR>Thank you for
your email and inquiry. Your post appears in the archives at <A
href="http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2017-April/031368.html">http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2017-April/031368.html</A>.
<BR><BR>If you have additional questions, or if I may be of further assistance,
please feel free to contact me. <BR><BR>Thank you for your involvement in and
support of ARIN! <BR><BR>Best regards, <BR>Wendy <BR><BR>Wendy Leedy<BR>Member
Engagement Coordinator<BR>American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">On 4/16/17
5:10 AM, Marilson wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt">
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Why are
not my comments being posted to arin-ppml? I don't receive what I send for
arin-ppml.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Marilson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">
<HR align=center SIZE=2 width="100%">
</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <A title=marilson.mapa@gmail.com
href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com">Marilson</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> Saturday, April 15, 2017 5:42
PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <A title=bartlett.morgan@gmail.com
href="mailto:bartlett.morgan@gmail.com">Bartlett Morgan</A> ; <A
title=calderon.alfredo@gmail.com
href="mailto:calderon.alfredo@gmail.com">calderon.alfredo@gmail.com</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <A title=arin-ppml@arin.net
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> Re: [arin-ppml] Interesting policy
proposal in AFRINIC<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Hi
Morgan,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">To my
novice eyes, but tired and disappointed, I find it rather appropriate that the
entity responsible for the management and allocation of IP address blocks
adopt punitive measures against those who interfere in the free internet or in
the inappropriate use of those services.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Who
decides? The evidence. And the Internet community seems to be the only one
capable of putting punitive measures into
practice.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">No matter
who we are or what we do, commitment to democracy should always be part of our
activities.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">The owners
of these resources is the population of the planet. RIRs manage these
resources on behalf of this population and should effectively manage without
omitting and transferring that responsibility to governments or to their ISP
customers.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">I say this
because, just as there are autocratic governments, there are bad ISPs who
arrogantly refuse to punish clients with illicit activities even in the face
of evidence. And in the face of these bad providers, governments, without
exception, turn a blind eye. They are more concerned about employment within
their territory even at the expense of the population being the victim of
spammers and scammers.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">This
situation explains and does not justify the 420 billion spam and scam per day
(Cisco).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Never so
few done so much harm to so many.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">No more
shutdowns.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">No more
denying access to information and knowledge.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">No more
bad ISPs.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Even with
Trump!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Marilson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <A title=bartlett.morgan@gmail.com
href="mailto:bartlett.morgan@gmail.com">Bartlett Morgan</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> Saturday, April 15, 2017 9:12
AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <A
href="mailto:calderon.alfredo@gmail.com">calderon.alfredo@gmail.com</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <A
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> Re: [arin-ppml] Interesting policy
proposal in AFRINIC<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Doesn't
seem like the most workable policy to my novice eyes.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Is it
really a good idea to convert RIRs into the internet police?
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">if we
think it is a good idea, who decides what's a proper case for
implementation?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">On Apr 14,
2017 8:48 AM, "Alfredo Calderon" <<A
href="mailto:calderon.alfredo@gmail.com">calderon.alfredo@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt">
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">The
discussion is very interesting and, could have consequences in ARIN if
reciprocity policies are adopted among RIR?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<DIV id=m_5497963137251269094WISESTAMP_SIG_24aebe1bd9e999574dee926d3799e838>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV id=m_5497963137251269094tp1s>
<TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="WIDTH: 363.75pt; COLOR: #000000"
cellPadding=0 width=485 border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><B>Error! Filename not
specified.</B><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt"></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt">
<TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="COLOR: #000000" cellPadding=0
border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Alfredo
Calderon</SPAN></B><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR>eLearning
Consultant <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A
href="mailto:calderon.alfredo@gmail.com">calderon.alfredo@gmail.com</A>
| <A
href="http://aprendizajedistancia">http://aprendizajedistancia</A>.blogspot.com
| Skype: Alfredo_1212 | <A
href="http://wiseintro.co/alfredocalderon"
target=_blank>wiseintro.co/alfredocalderon</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt">
<TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="COLOR: #000000" cellPadding=0
border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A
href="http://facebook.com/calderon.alfredo"
target=_blank><SPAN
style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"><B>Error! Filename not
specified.</B></SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A
href="http://pr.linkedin.com/in/acalderon52"
target=_blank><SPAN
style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"><B>Error! Filename not
specified.</B></SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A
href="http://twitter.com/acalderon52" target=_blank><SPAN
style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"><B>Error! Filename not
specified.</B></SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A
href="http://plus.google.com/u/0/103289446075444313762/posts"
target=_blank><SPAN
style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"><B>Error! Filename not
specified.</B></SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A
href="http://www.pinterest.com/acalderon/"
target=_blank><SPAN
style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"><B>Error! Filename not
specified.</B></SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A
href="http://www.slideshare.net/acalderon"
target=_blank><SPAN
style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"><B>Error! Filename not
specified.</B></SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A
href="http://klout.com/#/acalderon52" target=_blank><SPAN
style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"><B>Error! Filename not
specified.</B></SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A
href="http://wiseintro.co/alfredocalderon"
target=_blank><SPAN
style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"><B>Error! Filename not
specified.</B></SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV id=m_5497963137251269094WS_promo>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><B>Error! Filename not
specified.</B><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Get a
signature like this: <A
href="http://ws-promos.appspot.com/r?rdata=eyJydXJsIjogImh0dHA6Ly93d3cud2lzZXN0YW1wLmNvbS9lbWFpbC1pbnN0YWxsP3dzX25jaWQ9NjcyMjk0MDA4JnV0bV9zb3VyY2U9ZXh0ZW5zaW9uJnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPXByb21vXzU3MzI1Njg1NDg3Njk3OTIiLCAiZSI6ICI1NzMyNTY4NTQ4NzY5NzkyIn0=&u=608801288331735"
target=_blank>Click here!</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">On Thu,
Apr 13, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Cj Aronson <<A
href="mailto:cja@daydream.com">cja@daydream.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt">
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Recently an article about the
proposal (link below to policy text and article) was posted to the RIPE
policy list. This policy being discussed in AFRINIC is very
interesting and different than any proposal I have seen so far. I
thought you all might be interested in reading the text. It
basically restricts access to IP addresses to governments who shut down
Internet access. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><A
href="https://afrinic.net/en/communi">https://afrinic.net/en/communi</A>ty/policy-development/policy-proposals/2061-anti-shutdown-01<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">The
article about the proposal is here<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><A
href="https://www.theregister.co.uk/">https://www.theregister.co.uk/</A>2017/04/12/no_ip_addresses_for_countries/<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">Enjoy!
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">----Cathy<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">{Ô,Ô}<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">
(( ))<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black">
◊ ◊<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>PPML<BR>You
are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<BR>the ARIN
Public Policy Mailing List (<A
href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</A>).<BR>Unsubscribe
or manage your mailing list subscription at:<BR><A
href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/</A>listinfo/arin-ppml<BR>Please
contact <A href="mailto:info@arin.net">info@arin.net</A> if you experience
any issues.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><BR> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>