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<DIV>Hi Morgan,</DIV>
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<DIV>To my novice eyes, but tired and disappointed, I find it rather appropriate
that the entity responsible for the management and allocation of IP address
blocks adopt punitive measures against those who interfere in the free internet
or in the inappropriate use of those services.</DIV>
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<DIV>Who decides? The evidence. And the Internet community seems to be the only
one capable of putting punitive measures into practice.</DIV>
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<DIV>No matter who we are or what we do, commitment to democracy should always
be part of our activities.</DIV>
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<DIV>The owners of these resources is the population of the planet. RIRs manage
these resources on behalf of this population and should effectively manage
without omitting and transferring that responsibility to governments or to their
ISP customers.</DIV>
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<DIV>I say this because, just as there are autocratic governments, there are bad
ISPs who arrogantly refuse to punish clients with illicit activities even in the
face of evidence. And in the face of these bad providers, governments, without
exception, turn a blind eye. They are more concerned about employment within
their territory even at the expense of the population being the victim of
spammers and scammers.</DIV>
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<DIV>This situation explains and does not justify the 420 billion spam and scam
per day (Cisco).</DIV>
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<DIV>Never so few done so much harm to so many.</DIV>
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<DIV>No more shutdowns.</DIV>
<DIV>No more denying access to information and knowledge.</DIV>
<DIV>No more bad ISPs.</DIV>
<DIV>Even with Trump!</DIV>
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<DIV>Marilson</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bartlett.morgan@gmail.com
href="mailto:bartlett.morgan@gmail.com">Bartlett Morgan</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 15, 2017 9:12 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=calderon.alfredo@gmail.com
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arin-ppml] Interesting policy proposal in
AFRINIC</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Doesn't seem like the most workable policy to my novice eyes.
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<DIV>Is it really a good idea to convert RIRs into the internet police? </DIV>
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<DIV>if we think it is a good idea, who decides what's a proper case for
implementation?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Apr 14, 2017 8:48 AM, "Alfredo Calderon" <<A
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in ARIN if reciprocity policies are adopted among RIR?<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Recently an article about the proposal (link below to policy
text and article) was posted to the RIPE policy list. This policy
being discussed in AFRINIC is very interesting and different than any
proposal I have seen so far. I thought you all might be interested in
reading the text. It basically restricts access to IP addresses
to governments who shut down Internet access.
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target=_blank>https://afrinic.net/en/communi<WBR>ty/policy-development/policy-<WBR>proposals/2061-anti-shutdown-<WBR>01</A></DIV>
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<DIV>The article about the proposal is here</DIV>
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<DIV>Enjoy! </DIV>
<DIV>----Cathy<BR clear=all>
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