<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Martin Hannigan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" target="_blank">hannigan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail-">On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:35 PM, William Herrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank">bill@herrin.us</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>Contractually you do not own addresses allocated to you through ARIN's transfer process. In the Registration Services Agreement you signed you explicitly disclaimed ownership. There is no legal ownership, either by you or a financing company. There might or might not be legal ownership by ARIN -- that's not well defined by the courts yet. </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>'Ownership' can be achieved.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi Marty,</div><div><br></div><div>I think so too but I'd be hard pressed to identify anyone who has ever established clear-title ownership of an ARIN block of IP addresses.</div><div><br></div><div>Bankruptcy cases have established that IP addresses are assets with monetary value suitable for disposal in the proceedings. It's not a long trek from there to "documentary intangible property." But no court that I know of has ever directly ruled that addresses are property as understood by the law and as a transfer recipient you contractually disclaim the right to assert that the addresses you received in the transfer are your property,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>In terms of his question about financing, its an interesting request.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Borrow against something else to fund the address purchase.</div><div><br></div><div><div>Regards,</div><div>Bill Herrin</div></div></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature">William Herrin ................ <a href="mailto:herrin@dirtside.com" target="_blank">herrin@dirtside.com</a> <a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank">bill@herrin.us</a><br>Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <<a href="http://www.dirtside.com/" target="_blank">http://www.dirtside.com/</a>></div>
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