<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">+1 Dave’s comments.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I support 2016-9. It should hopefully strengthen the accuracy of the whois data.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<div class=""><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class="">--</div><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class="">Brian E Jones, CSM, CSPO</div><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class="">NI&S Virginia Tech</div><div style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;" class=""><a href="mailto:bjones@vt.edu" class="">bjones@vt.edu</a></div></div>
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 24, 2017, at 11:23 PM, David Farmer <<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu" class="">farmer@umn.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">In the most general sense a state is a corporation. See; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation#History" target="_blank" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr class="">Corporation#History</a> Further, in most cases the agencies of a state are not independent but sub-parts of the whole. Therefore, moving resources between agencies should more properly be considered a reorganization of a single entity, in most situations, and not a transfer between separate entities. Also, I'd expect ARIN would provide some level of deference to sovereign government entities like states, especially in an interagency type situation. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">However, to protect itself, I would expect ARIN would want to ensure they are dealing with someone with the proper authority to act on the state's behalf. So, I could imagine ARIN asking a state (or agency) to provide evidence (such as a quote of applicable statute) of who has authority over the agencies and/or resources in question. I expect this would be especially be true, if resources were being transferred out of a State's control.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Richard J. Letts <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:rjletts@uw.edu" target="_blank" class="">rjletts@uw.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-4235651206625929602WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">This assumes that only corporate entities merge, acquire, or re-organize. How would state agencies or an inter-institution research group produce the required documentation to facilitate
the movement of resources given the lack of independently verifiable information?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">Similarly, a function might be transferred between state agencies, but we might not be acquiring an entire corporate entity (as we’re a state agency).<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="">Richard<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p>
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<b class="">Date: </b>Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 12:32 PM<br class="">
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<b class="">Subject: </b>[arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">These two changes will leave Section 8.2 looking like this:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">8.2. Mergers and Acquisitions<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">ARIN will consider requests for the transfer of number resources in the case of mergers, acquisitions, and reorganizations under the following conditions:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">The current registrant must not be involved in any dispute as to the status of the resources to be transferred.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">The new entity must sign an RSA covering all resources to be transferred.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">The resources to be transferred will be subject to ARIN policies.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">The minimum transfer size is the smaller of the original allocation size or the applicable minimum allocation size in current policy.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">AND one or more of the following:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">The recipient must provide independently verifiable evidence that they have acquired the assets that use the resources to be transferred from the current registrant.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">OR<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">The recipient must show that they have acquired the entire corporate entity which is the current registrant.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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