<div dir="ltr">Well said, David.<div><br></div><div>Thank you.</div><div><br></div><div>John Springer</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:23 PM, David Farmer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu" target="_blank">farmer@umn.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">In the most general sense a state is a corporation. See; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation#History" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Corporation#History</a> Further, in most cases the agencies of a state are not independent but sub-parts of the whole. Therefore, moving resources between agencies should more properly be considered a reorganization of a single entity, in most situations, and not a transfer between separate entities. Also, I'd expect ARIN would provide some level of deference to sovereign government entities like states, especially in an interagency type situation. <div><br></div><div>However, to protect itself, I would expect ARIN would want to ensure they are dealing with someone with the proper authority to act on the state's behalf. So, I could imagine ARIN asking a state (or agency) to provide evidence (such as a quote of applicable statute) of who has authority over the agencies and/or resources in question. I expect this would be especially be true, if resources were being transferred out of a State's control.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Richard J. Letts <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rjletts@uw.edu" target="_blank">rjletts@uw.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">This assumes that only corporate entities merge, acquire, or re-organize. How would state agencies or an inter-institution research group produce the required documentation to facilitate
the movement of resources given the lack of independently verifiable information?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Similarly, a function might be transferred between state agencies, but we might not be acquiring an entire corporate entity (as we’re a state agency).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 12:32 PM<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>[arin-ppml] 2016-9 Streamline Merger & Acquisition Transfers - Text modifications<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">8.2. Mergers and Acquisitions<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The current registrant must not be involved in any dispute as to the status of the resources to be transferred.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The new entity must sign an RSA covering all resources to be transferred.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The resources to be transferred will be subject to ARIN policies.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The minimum transfer size is the smaller of the original allocation size or the applicable minimum allocation size in current policy.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">AND one or more of the following:<u></u><u></u></p>
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