<div dir="ltr">David<div><br></div><div>I agree that we should remove the word reciprocal or make a special exception for AFRNIC and LACNIC. We once had a separate minimum allocation for the AFRINIC area before AFRINIC was formed. I think this falls into that same sort of policy category. </div><div><br></div><div>-----Cathy</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">{Ô,Ô}</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"> (( ))</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"> ◊ ◊</font></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 1:36 PM, David R Huberman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:daveid@panix.com" target="_blank">daveid@panix.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Last week, ARIN staff sent to this list a copy of their response to AFRINIC on inter-RIR transfer policy compatability.<br>
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The AFRINIC community is considering a one-way transfer policy as a bootstrap for the few years until they reach IPv4 runout, at which point it would aim to become two-way.<br>
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I feel like as a member of the internet community, that ARIN (we - us - the PPML participants) should be accepting that an RIR in a different region has different needs than we do. I think we should allow African internet operators to obtain blocks from sellers in the ARIN region, and transfer them to AFRINIC to meet their needs.<br>
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The AFRINIC inbound transfer policy is very ARIN-like. It's needs-basis, and the language looks very similar to 8.2 and 8.3 language we've had at ARIN for a very long time.<br>
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cf.<br>
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<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/1803-inbound-transfer-policy" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/comm<wbr>unity/policy-development/polic<wbr>y-proposals/1803-inbound-trans<wbr>fer-policy</a><br>
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That's my opinion. What's yours?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
David<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2017, ARIN wrote:<br>
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To PPML -<br>
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As a result of policy discussions in the AFRINIC region, ARIN is<br>
providing the following to information:<br>
<br>
On 30 September 2016 ARIN received a query from AFRINIC requesting an<br>
assessment on the compatibility of AFRINIC proposed<br>
1803-inbound-transfer-policy with ARIN policy. On 6 October 2016 ARIN<br>
responded with the following assessment:<br>
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Based on ARIN’s Number Resource Policy Manual, Version 2016.2 – 13 July<br>
2016, and referencing the following text from paragraph 8.4. Inter-RIR<br>
Transfers to Specified Recipients, we have determined that the proposed<br>
AFRINIC Inbound Transfer Policy is not reciprocal.<br>
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“Inter-regional transfers may take place only via RIRs who agree to the<br>
transfer and share reciprocal, compatible, needs-based policies.”<br>
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In this case reciprocal meaning that the policy provides both RIRs the<br>
same ability to transfer: both in and out. This policy proposal as<br>
written could not be implemented by ARIN. Note that ARIN’s Inter-RIR<br>
transfer policy is based on other RIR's transfer policy and does not<br>
consider any LIR or NIR policies.<br>
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Regards,<br>
<br>
John Sweeting<br>
Sr. Director, RSD<br>
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)<br>
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