<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Count me in the support as-is category, please. I don't (presently) buy the case for allowing reserved space to go via 8.3</div><div><br>On May 17, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Andrew Dul <<a href="mailto:andrew.dul@quark.net">andrew.dul@quark.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p>Owen, I don't know what data you are using to base your opinion
on, but by my count of PPML & the PPM. We have the following
number of statements regarding the adding of transfer ability
(when it is restricted to same use).</p>
<p>Support 5</p>
<p>Don't Support 3</p>
<p>Undecided 2<br>
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<p>I don't know if 10 individual comments accurately represents the
entire community regardless of the subject, but that is the public
data as I counted it. Additionally, a number of those who were
"don't support" also noted that they would be "OK" with the
transfer addition of the text, which as a policy shepherd would
generally make the case toward support of the changes.<br>
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<p>Andrew<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/16/2016 11:07 AM, Owen DeLong
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Overall, I do not think that the proposed changes have the support
of the community and I would advocate leaving the policy as
written.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The shepherds have
requested feedback on a proposed update to the draft.
The draft has not yet been formally updated.<br class="">
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On 5/16/2016 8:27 AM, Jason Schiller wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">Can you clarify where this policy
stands?</div>
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<div class="">I can't tell from your email if you
are asking for feed back </div>
<div class="">on a possible change to the policy.
Or if you have actually</div>
<div class="">rewritten the policy and the AC is
requesting comments on </div>
<div class="">the newly re-written policy.</div>
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<div class="">If the latter, can Sean please update
the text at:</div>
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<div class="">to show it has been re-written, post
the new text there</div>
<div class="">and a pointer to the now archived
older revision?</div>
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<div class="">Thanks,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 5, 2016 at
10:59 AM, Andrew Dul <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:andrew.dul@quark.net" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:andrew.dul@quark.net">andrew.dul@quark.net</a>></span>
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<p class="">Hello,</p>
<p class="">As part of the discussions at ARIN
37 the community considered updates to the
proposed draft policy that would allow
organizations to transfer, within ARIN,
reserved pool resources provided that they
met the criteria to obtain a block from a
reserved pool. <br class="">
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<p class="">Based upon this feedback we are
proposing to update the draft policy text as
follows. The AC welcomes your feedback on
this proposed text and any other feedback on
this draft policy.</p>
<p class="">Thanks,</p>
<p class="">Andrew<br class="">
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<b class="">Original</b><strong class="">
Policy statement:</strong><span class="">
<p class="">Add to Section 8.3 and Section
8.4 under the "Conditions on source of the
transfer:"</p>
<p class="">Address resources from a
reserved pool (including those designated
in Section 4.4 and 4.10) are not eligible
for transfer.</p>
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<p class=""><b class=""><strong class="">Updated
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statement:</strong> </p>
<p class="">Add to Section 8.3 under the
"Conditions on recipient of the transfer:"</p>
<p class="">Address resources from a reserved
pool (including those designated in Section
4.4 and 4.10) shall only be transferred to
organizations which meet the current
criteria of the reserved pool from which the
resource was obtained.</p>
Add to Section 8.4 under the "Conditions on
source of the transfer:" <span class="">
<p class="">Address resources from a
reserved pool (including those designated
in Section 4.4 and 4.10) are not eligible
for transfer.</p>
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