<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I see the policy itself largely as a no-op. I have no objection for it going to the board,<div class="">nor do I have any significant support for it to do so.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 12, 2016, at 18:53 , David Farmer <<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu" class="">farmer@umn.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Jason,</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Even though the last call period formally ended May 9th, I try my best</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">to consider all feedback received for a policy even following the</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">formal last call deadline, and while I can't speak for directly for</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">other AC members, I believe most of them do the same. However, when</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">feedback comes in late sometimes it might not get full consideration,</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">especially if it comes in immediately prior to one of our conference</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">calls. To help avoid this I explicitly noted when AC would be</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">considering the feedback. I will additionally note at this point it</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">is extremely important to get any additional feedback in ASAP to allow</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">the AC due time for its consideration prior to its May 19th conference</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">call.</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">As for the issues and questions you have raise, I believe John and</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Richard have been answering your questions. Further, I believe the</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">community consensus remains to move forward with removing the 25%</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Immediate (30 day) use requirement for end users as this policy</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">suggests. I would specifically ask anyone who disagrees and thinks we</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">need to consider the issues more to speak up ASAP.</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Thanks.</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Jason Schiller <</span><a href="mailto:jschiller@google.com" style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">jschiller@google.com</a><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">> wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">I seem to have missed the this thread in last call, and hope you<br class="">will consider the discussion on the other thread: " Re: [arin-ppml]<br class="">ARIN-2015-3:(remove 30-day...) Staff interpretation needed"<br class=""><br class="">I maintain that the 30-day [60-day for transfers] check has<br class="">been useful in mitigating abusively large requests, and<br class="">without it there is no teeth in the policy to prevent abuse.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I asked if I was wrong about this, please explain what<br class="">mechanisms are in place to mitigate an end-user asking for<br class="">approval for a 10 year supply of addresses on the grounds that<br class="">if things go really really well, it will only be a 2 year supply?<br class=""><br class="">I heard no response to indicate there was any mechanism.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I asked staff about information about stats that might help<br class="">determine what level of push back ARIN provides against two<br class="">year projected need in general, and if that push back would be<br class="">sufficient to prevent outlandishly large claims.<br class=""><br class="">We found that 50% - 75% of all requests are approved with<br class="">past utilization more heavily weighed.<br class=""><br class="">It remains unclear what level of oversight ARIN has to<br class="">question future looking projections. John Curran provided<br class="">some text about approvals of future looking projections.<br class=""><br class=""> "When we [ARIN] ask organization for their forward<br class=""> projections, we [ARIN] also ask them to provide details<br class=""> to show how they've arrived at their projections. We [ARIN]<br class=""> take into account factors such as new networks, locations,<br class=""> products, services they plan on offering (and this includes<br class=""> consideration of anticipated address utilization within the<br class=""> first 30 days for end-users.)<br class=""><br class="">From the text John provided it seems one could get IP<br class="">addresses solely on future looking plans which are<br class="">unverifiable. As such an end-user could easily get a 10<br class="">year supply of addresses simply by providing very<br class="">optimistic deployment plans for the next 24 months.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I asked if I was not wrong about this, then did people realize<br class="">that this policy is basically an end-run around giving out<br class="">addresses based on need when they voted to move this<br class="">policy forward?<br class=""><br class="">I heard no response to this.<br class=""><br class="">Thanks,<br class=""><br class="">__Jason<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:45 AM, David Farmer <<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu" class="">farmer@umn.edu</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">As shepherd for this policy I welcome any additional last call<br class="">feedback for this policy. It is especially important to speak up if<br class="">you feel there are any issues remaining that need to be considered.<br class="">But, even if you simply support the policy as written that is<br class="">important and useful feedback as well.<br class=""><br class="">The last call period formally continues through, Monday, May 9th, and<br class="">the AC will consider the feedback during its scheduled call on<br class="">Thursday, May 19th.<br class=""><br class="">Thanks<br class=""><br class="">On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:38 PM, ARIN <<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" class="">info@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) met on 20 April 2016 and decided to<br class="">send the following to last call:<br class=""><br class=""> Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30 day utilization<br class="">requirement in end-user IPv4 policy<br class=""><br class="">Feedback is encouraged during the last call period. All comments should<br class="">be provided to the Public Policy Mailing List. This last call will<br class="">expire on 9 May 2016. After last call the AC will conduct their<br class="">last call review.<br class=""><br class="">The draft policy text is below and available at:<br class=""><a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/" class="">https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/</a><br class=""><br class="">The ARIN Policy Development Process is available at:<br class="">https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html<br class=""><br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class="">Communications and Member Services<br class="">American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">## * ##<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-3<br class="">Remove 30 day utilization requirement in end-user IPv4 policy<br class=""><br class="">AC's assessment of conformance with the Principles of Internet Number<br class="">Resource Policy:<br class=""><br class="">ARIN 2015-3 contributes to fair and impartial number resource<br class="">administration<br class="">by removing from the NRPM text that is operationally unrealistic for the<br class="">reasons discussed in the problem statement. This proposal is technically<br class="">sound, in that the removal of the text will more closely align with the<br class="">way<br class="">staff applies the existing policy in relation to 8.3 transfers. There<br class="">was<br class="">strong community support for the policy on PPML and at ARIN 36, which<br class="">was<br class="">confirmed at ARIN 37. There was a suggestion to replace this text with<br class="">an<br class="">alternate requirement. However, the community consensus was to move<br class="">forward<br class="">with the removal alone.<br class=""><br class="">The staff and legal review also suggested removing RFC2050 references<br class="">and<br class="">pointed out that 4.2.3.6 has an additional 25% immediate use clause,<br class="">community feedback was to deal with those issues separately.<br class=""><br class="">Problem Statement:<br class=""><br class="">End-user policy is intended to provide end-users with a one year supply<br class="">of<br class="">IP addresses. Qualification for a one-year supply requires the network<br class="">operator to utilize at least 25% of the requested addresses within 30<br class="">days.<br class="">This text is unrealistic and should be removed.<br class=""><br class="">First, it often takes longer than 30 days to stage equipment and start<br class="">actually using the addresses.<br class=""><br class="">Second, growth is often not that regimented; the forecast is to use X<br class="">addresses over the course of a year, not to use 25% of X within 30 days.<br class=""><br class="">Third, this policy text applies to additional address space requests. It<br class="">is<br class="">incompatible with the requirements of other additional address space<br class="">request<br class="">justification which indicates that 80% utilization of existing space is<br class="">sufficient to justify new space. If a block is at 80%, then often<br class="">(almost<br class="">always?) the remaining 80% will be used over the next 30 days and<br class="">longer.<br class="">Therefore the operator cannot honestly state they will use 25% of the<br class="">ADDITIONAL space within 30 days of receiving it; they're still trying to<br class="">use<br class="">their older block efficiently.<br class=""><br class="">Fourth, in the face of ARIN exhaustion, some ISPs are starting to not<br class="">give<br class="">out /24 (or larger) blocks. So the justification for the 25% rule that<br class="">previously existed (and in fact, applied for many years) is no longer<br class="">germane.<br class=""><br class="">Policy statement:<br class=""><br class="">Remove the 25% utilization criteria bullet point from NRPM 4.3.3.<br class=""><br class="">Resulting text:<br class=""><br class="">4.3.3. Utilization rate<br class=""><br class="">Utilization rate of address space is a key factor in justifying a new<br class="">assignment of IP address space. Requesters must show exactly how<br class="">previous<br class="">address assignments have been utilized and must provide appropriate<br class="">details<br class="">to verify their one-year growth projection.<br class=""><br class="">The basic criterion that must be met is a 50% utilization rate within<br class="">one<br class="">year.<br class=""><br class="">A greater utilization rate may be required based on individual network<br class="">requirements. Please refer to RFC 2050 for more information on<br class="">utilization<br class="">guidelines.<br class=""><br class="">Comments:<br class=""><br class="">a.Timetable for implementation: Immediate<br class=""><br class="">b.Anything else<br class=""><br class="">#####<br class=""><br class="">ARIN STAFF ASSESSMENT<br class=""><br class="">Draft Policy ARIN-2015-3<br class="">Remove 30 day utilization requirement in end-user IPv4 policy<br class="">Date of Assessment: 16 February 2016<br class=""><br class="">___<br class="">1. Summary (Staff Understanding)<br class=""><br class="">This proposal would remove the 25% utilization (within 30 days of<br class="">issuance)<br class="">criteria bullet point from NRPM 4.3.3.<br class=""><br class="">___<br class="">2. Comments<br class=""><br class="">A. ARIN Staff Comments<br class="">This policy would more closely align with the way staff applies the<br class="">existing<br class="">policy in relation to 8.3 transfers. Because there is no longer an IPv4<br class="">free<br class="">pool and many IPv4 requests are likely to be satisfied by 8.3 transfers,<br class="">the<br class="">adoption of this policy should have no major impact on operations and<br class="">could<br class="">be implemented as written.<br class=""><br class="">Note that both NRPM 4.3.3 and NRPM 4.2.3.6 contain references to<br class="">obsolete<br class="">RFC 2050. Additionally, 4.2.3.6 references the 25% immediate use (within<br class="">30<br class="">days of issuance) requirement.<br class=""><br class="">Staff suggests removing the first two sentences of 4.2.3.6 to remove the<br class="">references to RFC 2050 and the 25% requirement. Additionally, staff<br class="">suggests<br class="">removing the reference to the obsolete RFC 2050 in section 4.3.3.<br class=""><br class="">B. ARIN General Counsel – Legal Assessment<br class="">No material legal risk in this policy.<br class=""><br class="">___<br class="">3. Resource Impact<br class=""><br class="">This policy would have minimal resource impact from an implementation<br class="">aspect. It is estimated that implementation would occur immediately<br class="">after<br class="">ratification by the ARIN Board of Trustees. The following would be<br class="">needed in<br class="">order to implement:<br class="">* Updated guidelines and internal procedures<br class="">* Staff training<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">PPML<br class="">You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br class="">the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net).<br class="">Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br class="">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml<br class="">Please contact info@arin.net if you experience any issues.<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">===============================================<br class="">David Farmer Email:farmer@<a href="http://umn.edu" class="">umn.edu</a><br class="">Networking & Telecommunication Services<br class="">Office of Information Technology<br class="">University of Minnesota<br class="">2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815<br class="">Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952<br class="">===============================================<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">PPML<br class="">You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br class="">the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" class="">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).<br class="">Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br class=""><a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml" class="">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br class="">Please contact info@arin.net if you experience any issues.<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">_______________________________________________________<br class="">Jason Schiller|NetOps|<a href="mailto:jschiller@google.com" class="">jschiller@google.com</a>|571-266-0006<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Monaco; 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