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<div class="">Folks - </div>
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<div class=""> Please keep the discussion focused on the merits of the various policy positions,</div>
<div class=""> *rather than characterizations of the participants themselves) </div>
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<div class="">Thanks,</div>
<div class="">/John</div>
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On May 12, 2016, at 5:34 PM, Matthew Kaufman <<a href="mailto:matthew@matthew.at" class="">matthew@matthew.at</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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From: "Owen DeLong" <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">owen@delong.com</a>></div>
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<div class="">Despite your continued assertion of this position, no, there are a number of us who believe that needs assessment remains valid in the absence of a free pool as a mechanism to ensure that resources are not going to organizations without need.</div>
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<div class="">You and others may believe that, but as far as I know, nobody has produced evidence that shows that needs assessment in fact provides that mechanism. Whereas there is significant evidence that - despite needs assessment continuing to be supported
as policy - resources are in fact being locked up by organizations that do not meet the NRPM needs test (both existing organizations that no longer meet it, and therefore have addresses for sale - and organizations which are using mechanisms outside of transfer
to assure that their longer-term future needs will be adequately met.)</div>
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<div class="">While it is clear you do not perceive this as necessary, it does not make everyone who disagrees with you inherently wrong, nor does it indicate that we are disconnected from reality.</div>
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<div class="">Until evidence is provided that the needs assessment that you and others so vehemently argue to continue as policy does in fact perform the function that you claim it does at this point in the IPv4 lifecycle, I will continue to take that as an
indication that you are "disconnected from reality", as you put it.</div>
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